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- From: twnw3@isuvax.iastate.edu
- Subject: Re: Racism in SF2?
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- Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
- References: <1992Nov15.235400.19644@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov16.022738.28275@leland.Stanford.EDU>,<BxsGz5.783@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:10:44 GMT
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- In article <BxsGz5.783@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
- >In <1992Nov16.022738.28275@leland.Stanford.EDU> inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1992Nov15.235400.19644@midway.uchicago.edu> alee@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>>Hmmm, could there be perhaps a bit of racism in SF2? On the CE version,
- >>>when it goes the demo version, it will show a blond white guy facing
- >>>a black guy (who can only be seen by his back). The blond guy then
- >>>punches out the black guy, and then "Street Fighter II" appears on the
- >>>screen... Could this be a bit of racism?
- >
- >>Before you guys start flaming this guy to a crisp, take a look at other
- >>aspects of SFII. Namely, the endings.
- >
- >>Ken: Left his girlfriend to fight in the tournament.
- >>Guile: Deserted his family to go after Bison
- >>Ryu: Doesn't like ceremony; looks for the next fight.
- >>Honda: Keeps on training, being all he can be. =)
- >
- >WHAT!?!? I don't get what you're trying to say here.
- >
- >Honda: Leaves disciples to go fight in tournament, joins his students again.
- >Guile: Leaves family " " " " " , " " family again.
- >Dhalsim: same thing
- >Ken: get married after fighting in tourney....
- >Sagat: goes after Ryu for leaving him with scar (I don't know if this is right
- > or not)
- >
- >basically, they all leave whatever they were doing to fight in tournament or
- >do some bragging (Vega, Bison)
- >
- >>IN GENERAL, the 'Americans' in SF2 are cocky, arrogant, and not all-around
- >>nice people, while the Japanese characters are focused, dedicated 'warriors.'
- >>There's a definate polarization here. Don't believe me, check out the nintendo
- >>cart...
- >
- >I think that the Americans are more family oriented (Ken [gets married], Guile
- >[reunites with his family], I haven't seen Balrog's ending yet), while the
- >Asian characters don't have a family (Chun Li [avenges father's death], Ryu
- >[just walks away, but whereto?], Honda [goes back to sumo school])
- >
- >Since there are only 3 americans and 3 "oriental" (for lack of a better word)
- >characters, this sample is not big enough to make overall conclusions about
- >the characters and where they came from.
- >
- >>1) In the manual, Ken abandoned his master (sheng long) to go lounge with his
- >> girlfriend on the beach after SF1.
- >>2) One of Ken's 'I won' sentences is, 'Get up, it's too early for you to be
- >> defeated.'
- >>3) One of Ryu's 'I won' sentences is, 'Pretty good, but you'll have to
- >> practice more to beat me.' <---that's a paraphrase
- >
- >I haven't seen the manuals or any endings, so I can't answer this.
- >
- >>There's other stuff, like the Capcom version of the 'American Dream' as told
- >>be Balrog in his ending. All these politics have nothing to do with the
- >>playability of the game, but they _do_ give a bit of insight into the minds
- >>of the game's creator(s). So what's the verdict? Is this a legit finding, or
- >>are all these coincidences??
- >
- >>>--
- >>>Typical news read Computer: NFS server wakinyan not responding still trying
- >>>at the U of C - Computer: NFS server wakinyan not responding still trying
- >>>Don'tcha love it? User : God dammit! Not again! Aaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!
- >
- >>---
- >>T. Cannon
- >>(who likes SF2 desipe all this political cr@p)
- >
- >I like SF2, but I hate political correctness.
- (Think of it as respect then. Treat people the way they want to be treated
- call them what they want to be called and make sure that you dont forget that
- everyone is an individual. How would you like it if noone gave a fuck if
- they offended you or not. Dont say you dont care cuz thats bullshit. You dont
- know what its like. People are affected by sterotypes and negative connotations
- both directly and indirectly everyday. And indifferent people like you just
- contribute to much of the miscommunication we have in american society today.
- Before you can work with someone you have to have an understanding of how
- they want to be treated and also how to deal with people with different
- levels of tolerance and so on. Dont be so close minded.
- (Btw i like SF2 also, but i cant stand people who have these prejudices on
- bieng PC.)
-
- >--
- >Brian T Odom
- >
- >"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
- >others make excuses."
-