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- From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
- Subject: Re: OMAR's bio : Jive version
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.075129.5021@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- References: <1992Nov16.161713.16418@midway.uchicago.edu> <1e9224INNitf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <1992Nov16.230005.29909@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:51:29 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.230005.29909@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >In article <1e9224INNitf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
- >>Okay, let's look at credentials...
- >>I'm a Rose student. I've been on campus for three years. I've been near and
- >>around Omar for three years. I presently live next to his room. I've seen
- >>Omar in the computing center for nearly two years. I've seen Omar sitting
- >>glued to the television for a GREAT deal of time. *pant pant pant*
- >>
- >>You attend school in Chicago. Have you recently commuted down here to take
- >>an in person evaluation of Omar?
- >
- >No. I see no reason to be in Indiana at all.
- >
- >Look, I don't give a flying oat bran if you make fun of Omar. Or even
- >if you make fun of a hare-lipped diabetic epileptic dyslexic Sri Lankan
- >with one leg and a stutter. But don't expect me to fall all over you
- >with awe because you're capable of making fun of someone no one likes
- >when you then brag about it to complete strangers on a worldwide newsgroup.
- >
- >>Until you do, I would say you keep your
- >>unfounded statements regarding the non-existent racism at Rose to yourself.
- >
- >The jive filter is racist. Posting something that used the jive filter
- >is racist. Saying "Well, I'm not offended," doesn't suddenly excuse
- >the racism.
- >
- >The really disgusting part is how every single RHIT poster can't seem to
- >get that through their heads. That's far more telling of your racism than
- >anything I've posted. As is the continual emphasis in RHIT posts
- >of his skin color and his Pakistani origins. If the real story behind
- >Omar was that he was arrogant and inconsiderate, then the skin color
- >and national origin would be irrelevant, no? But it's constantly described
- >in "not only that, but he's also..." terms. And I've seen posts making
- >fun of Omar because he misheard something, which should hardly be a surprise
- >if someone's wearing two hearing aids that, by all accounts, are hardly
- >state-of-the-art technology.
- >
- >The really amusing part is how everyone at RHIT has no problem at all
- >ganging up on someone who's had a less fortunate life than they have,
- >and continuing to do so for three years, but can't even take a wee bit
- >of criticism from the world outside of their little insular fraternity
- >for more than a few minutes without exploding on the net and e-mail in
- >outrage that someone *dared* to call them a name.
- >
- >It seems to me that you can dish it, but you can't take it in return.
- >The textbook case of a bully.
-
- I'd just like to second what Ted's saying.
-
- Finding Omar's obtuseness and inflated ego funny is fine by me.
-
- Interjecting at every point possible in these Omar anecdotes that he is
- a) Pakistani and b) dark of complexion, as the Rose-Hulman bigots have
- been doing, seems indicative of a certain preoccupation with national
- origin and color of skin that has nothing to do with his being egotistic and
- confused much of the time.
-
- Doubling over laughing when Omar's somewhat laughable bio is fed through a
- jive filter is sick. If the humor is innate in the bio as originally
- written, well and good. If it suddenly develops additional humor after
- being fed through a filter that's chock-full of racist stereotypes, where
- is the humor coming from? Omar? Or the filter with the racist
- stereotypes? Chuckle at the bio all you want. But don't increase your
- laughter by 300% when it's fed through the jive filter and then say "But
- we *know* Omar isn't black!" The increase in perceived humor value is
- coming from the racism, not from Omar.
-
- Finally, in their defense, the Rose-Hulman bigots have been saying "If I
- tell racist jokes and don't mean any harm by them, it's okay! It's fine!"
- That's not a liberal twisting of words; that's close to being a direct quote.
-
- Generations of men have told sexist jokes at work; female employees had to
- sit by and suffer in silence. Courts now call this sexual harassment.
- Generations of African-Americans have stood by while racists told each
- other jokes about those dam' uppity nigrahs, and the racists telling said
- jokes didn't usually mean much harm either. They thought they were just
- pointing out humor inherent in a situation... as the Rose-Hulman
- Omar-haters have themselves said.
-
- If after reading all this, you bozos at Rose-Hulman reply "But hey, you
- son-of-a-bitch, *you've* *never* *met* *Omar*," then there's really
- nothing else Ted and I can say. People who live off in a world where
- racism and skin color are extra seasoning for jokes don't usually listen.
-
-
- The Rose-Hulman people seem to be as deaf as they make Omar out to be.
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