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- From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism,alt.sex
- Subject: Repression and Pornography (was: Re: Death Threats and Pornography)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.233407.5624@panix.com>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 23:34:07 GMT
- References: <1992Nov21.222331.23196@netcom.com> <1992Nov22.044850.7382@panix.com> <1992Nov23.040305.396@netcom.com>
- Organization: mydog in exile
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- gf:
- | >| > ... Given the passions aroused
- | >| >by the subject of sex-repression-and-pornography (can't have
- | >| >one without the other, so it's really one thing) ...
- [ ??? ]
- | > ... For full, complete,
- | >and total explicitness, we need two levels of hyphenation,
- | >or use of parentheses:
- | > ((sex repression) and (pornography)) ...
-
- payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne):
- | Clear, yes. OK? I expect the female porn producers might disagree.
- |
- | Let me ask an honest question, do you really believe that these three
- | (or two) go hand-in-hand, that you never, ever, have one without the
- | other(s)?
- |
- | I suppose it would help if you told us what you considered pornography.
- | If it was -only snuff films-, I would agree with you. Otherwise, what
- | makes you think so?
-
- By "pornography" I mean any work of art whose main (or only)
- function is to stimulate sexual feelings. Thus I would
- include "soft-core", for example the pictures in _Playboy_.
-
- Now, if there were no socially-imposed sexual repression,
- it's hard to see why there would be any demand for a
- specific genre of art related to sexuality. Instead,
- sexuality would tend to appear in almost all art, even such
- mundane kinds of art as news stories, and it would be rather
- uniformly distributed. Instead, it's obvious, to me,
- anyway, that the _kick_ of porn derives from some degree
- of derepression. For instance, you can't usually see
- women's breasts (in American culture) but you can in
- _Playboy_; in a culture where it was common for women not to
- cover their breasts, the magazine would have to show
- something else to get the same effect. In a culture where
- public coition was commonplace, there would be no point in
- making entire movies devoted to it; instead, such scenes
- would appear in other movies as part of the expected
- mise-en-scene.
-
- I think some degree of social repression of sexuality is
- probably necessary to humans because, unlike most mammals,
- they are constantly in heat, and it seems that it would be
- otherwise impossible for groups of humans to think or act
- without it. If this is the case then pornography may be a
- useful or even necessary way of dealing with the tensions
- caused by this repression. It seems to have been around
- since before history began, which speaks for its utility
- and consistent appeal.
-
- It's interesting to think of repression-derepression and
- pornography-anti-pornography as constructively opposed
- forces similar to animal musculature and endocrine
- balance.
- --
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