home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- Path: sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!batcomputer!reed!lclark!garyb
- From: garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich)
- Subject: Re: The problem w/ feminism today
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.004553.8862@lclark.edu>
- Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
- References: <1992Nov18.163820.1@woods.ulowell.edu>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:45:53 GMT
- Lines: 39
-
- >I think one of the greatest issus I have with much of the feminist writing I
- >have come across is that it is exlucive rather than inclusive. The feminine
- >identity does not have to be one which is exclusive of the masculine. I think
- >at one time we needed to separate ourselves from the masculine world in order
- >to begin establishing and validating an identity which was ours, but I think
- >the time has long come that we bbegin reintegrating ourselves. We can include
- >the male world without threatening our own identity. Men are not all bad. If we
- >want things to continue changing, we need to begin using dialogue instead of
- >monologue to accomplish our aims. Issues such as rape are perpetuated by the
- >patriarchal system, but it is not the patriarchal system that has a problem
- >with these issues, it is us. Unless we can make others understand and begin to
- >empathize, many issues such as rape will always simply be "women's issues."
- >Dialogue means an exchange. Right now, I don't feel that happening. I see
- >alienation and finger pointing isntead of communication. I think that the new
- >challenge feminism faces is reintegrating itself with the whole identity.
- > -jules
-
-
- I could not agree more, I (as a man) agree that there are a "BUNCH" of
- asshole male types out there that continue to make things difficult. But it
- is time to stop pointing fingers and to start working on stopping the
- problems that face "ALL" of us in todays society.
-
- To use an old proverb, "You draw more flies with honey than with vinegar"
- and all the hateful rhetoric that is coming from the finge elements, which
- unforunately the media hypes out of all proportion, is doing nothing more
- than driving a wedge of anger between the the very people that need to be
- working together to solve the problems that we face.
-
- Rape is not a female problem, it is not a male problem, it is a societal
- problem. Working "together" we can solve it.
-
- Prostitution is not a female problem, it is not a male problem, it is a
- societal problem. Working "together" we can solve it.
-
- Unwanted pregnancy, & abortion is not a female problem, it is not a male
- problem, it is an educational problem. Working together we "CAN" solve it.
-
- ./gb
-