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- From: mec6@quads.uchicago.edu (rini)
- Subject: Re: sex in the good ol' days
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:43:42 GMT
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- I wrote:
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- >Granted, my access to primary historical documents is not great, but
- >I do know of two histories (one a book and the other a recent journal
- >article) which quote documents that are not dissimilar to the one
- >I posted here. (It's true -- I generally have to accept that the
- >historians did not make up their sources.) I can post the titles
- >of these secondary sources if you like.
-
- Me again.
-
- Robert is, I think, correct in being wary of that single, rather
- extreme source. (It's true -- I didn't think twice before cross-
- posting.) Anyway, the more prudent social historian may be
- interested in the following academic references:
-
- (Please refer to the articles themselves for extensive quotes from
- primary souces... I didn't take notes on that stuff.... I just jotted
- down the basic arguments.)
-
- ******************
-
- Seccombe, Wally. 1990. "Starting to Stop: Working-Class Fertility
- Decline in Britain," _Past & Present_: 126: 151-188.
-
- Seccombe argues that in the early twentieth centry, 42% of couples
- practiced abstinence. (Yes, there was a survey done at the time.)
- His sources clearly suggest that it was the women who were
- the driving force in this movement.
-
- Degler, Carl N. 1980. _At Odds: Women and the Family in America from
- the Revolution to the Present_. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
-
- Degler argues that the great American fertility decline in the late
- 1800s resulted from a weak form of "domestic feminism" where women
- sought control over sex and child-rearing. A great literature
- emerged which directed women to appeal to their husbands to "exercise
- sexual restraint."
-
- Smith, Daniel. 1973. "Family Limitation and Sexual Control in Victorian
- America," _Feminist Studies _ 1: 40-57.
-
- Along the lines of Degler, Smith argues that "domestic feminism" (i.e.
- the idea that women controlled the household, sex, and children) was
- behind the movement towards abstinence and then the fertility decline.
- Advice books from the period said stuff like, "she should not allow
- allow access unless she wants a child."
-
- rini
-