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- From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
- Subject: Re: the real Reagan record
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:47:03 PDT
- Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
- Message-ID: <D2150056.iq447c@erics.infoserv.com>
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- <DURRETT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
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- > From 1977-1980, inclusive,
- > Jimmy Carter was in office! At the very least, I would think we would
- > agree that Carter had a different philosophy in this regard than Reagan.
- > This is very likely a good example of lying with statistics. What we
- > really need to address the issue properly is the same statistic for the
- > period 1982-19<latest available>.
-
- I doubt that one year of the Carter administration made any difference
- in terms of something like average family income over the '80s, if that's
- what you're trying to say.
-
- [...]
- > My suspicion
- > is that the perceived failure(whether real or not) of so-called
- > trickle-down economics is due largely to the fact that we financed it
- > by running up the debt, thus sucking much of the money which should
- > have financed investment in productive jobs at low overhead(i.e., more
- > goods/jobs/services per dollar invested) into $600 toilet seats,
- > (what I perceive to be needless) research into SDI, and other weapons
- > development. It was a wasted opportunity, and now we will pay for it.
- > When Reagan took office, the US debt was (just) under $1T, and increasing
- > at a rate of 5-10%/year. Now it's $4T, and increasing at 10%/year. I
- > don't know by how much the GNP grew, but I suspect it wasn't 300%.
-
- I think you are entirely correct.
-
- > What clearly happened was that the ReaganBush administrations didn't
- > believe in supply-side economics, because if they did, they didn't
- > practice it. It's kind of like believing in safe sex, but dying of AIDS
- > because you couldn't be bothered to use a condom.
-
- I think Reagan believed in trickle-down economic (I'm not sure Bush
- believed in *anything*), and certainly Reagan's economic advisors did,
- until it was clear that it was a failure. The problem was that in practice
- it just didn't work. Politically, they were unable to make spending
- cuts in entitlement programs because too many people depend on them,
- and they were unwilling to make cuts elsewhere like the defense budget,
- because Reagan had promised a strong defense. It was incredibly naive
- to believe that Reagan could deliver his triad of campaign promises:
- increase defense spending, cut taxes AND balance the budget. Yet many
- people believed what they wanted to hear.
-
- > *We* may get lucky,
- > though. We might be able to bail ourselves out of it. But I'm not
- > holding my breath.
-
- Oh, things aren't that bad. It's possible to recover from this situation,
- but anyone who expects everything to be fixed in four years will be
- disappointed.
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- Eric Smith
- erics@infoserv.com
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