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- From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
- Subject: Re: "Oversensitivity" (was: Film Comment and Film Threat)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.164036.29272@news2.cis.umn.edu>
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- References: <6692@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> <1992Nov14.153024.9034@news2.cis.umn.edu> <6752@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:40:36 GMT
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- In article <6752@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov14.153024.9034@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
- >>>Yes, and it seems utterly fasinating to me that *champions* of FT
- >>>would utilize this pointless and low-brow form of reverse snobbery.
- >>>Look, for example, at FT's interview with Clive Barker back in 1989,
- >>>or at some of their stuff on Raimi. I'd call that pretentious bull-
- >>>shit sooner than I'd call films I Hadn't Understood "meaningless."
- >
- >>First off, please get your messages straight. I said some of this, and
- >>the Stainless Steel Moviegoer said some of it, but I don't believe he
- >>was "championing" FT.
- >
- >O.K. I was responding to the post I saw. Enough said. Others I
- >have encountered do use the argument to champion the most
- >arrent nonsense in the name of "pretension-busting."
- >
- >>The Barker interview was pretentious Bullshit? Oh sorry, I thought it was a
- >>good article with a hell of a lot more actual information on the man
- >>Clive Barker, than any other I have seen. But, the more recent interview
- >><on the set of Hellraiser 3> was totally a waste.
- >
- >Well, if you read what I wrote, including the "pace" that I have
- >deleted, you would realize that I didn't say the Barker interview was
- >pretentious bullshit--only that I would sooner label it pretentious
- >bullshit than I would the Seventh Seal. As it happens, I am of the
- >opinion that while Clive came off well, his interviewer did come off
- >as an ass of the first water.
- >
- >>Also, who else has used Barker's artwork to illustrate an article?
- >>Who among us knew that he did artwork?
- >
- >Well, I *own* some of his art, so can I play?
- >
- >>And I never claimed that it was the best, or hell, even that good anymore.
- >>I just said I liked it better than "Film Comment".
- >>I'm not the one who has gotten on a soapbox and felt the need to make
- >>large defenses of someone's work...
- >
- >And where have I done that? I merely wish to draw attention to the
- >fact that the emperor's new clothes argument often fails to satisfy.
- >
- >
- >>As for Mad vs. Spy, I'll still take Mad, but Spy is wonderful!
- >
- >Hmm.
- >> --Judex--
- >
- >cws
- >
-
- I own some of his artwork too, but I didn't know it existed until the
- article. As for the interviewer, I thought the first article was fine.
- The more recent one was a waste of paper.
-
- Please also realize that I did not bring up the "Emperors New clothes",
- but in the next line you were referrig to me. After all the earlier complaints
- about attribution mistakes, this pops up. Who cares.
-
- FT and FC are very different magazines, with very different purposes.
- To each their own. But I find FT covers more of the stuff I watch, as
- opposed to endless re-examination of films I could care less about.
- But FT has gone way downhill since Flynt bought them. I mean,
- Macauley Culkin on the cover? What is this, Entertainment Weakly!
-
- --Judex--
-
-