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- From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
- Subject: Re: views on consciousness
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.175306.29289@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
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- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
- References: <serb.157@polisci.umn.edu> <robg.722057543@citr.uq.oz.au>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:53:06 GMT
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- In article <robg.722057543@citr.uq.oz.au>, robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) writes:
- |> serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb) writes:
- |>
- |> >The discussion about physical vs. non-physical is interesting, but perhaps
- |> >we simply make the discussion based on our sensory abilities. If we can see
- |> >or feel something, it's physical. Or, to move on a bit, if our instruments
- |> >can measure it, it's physical. What is beyond our senses (which capture
- |> >only a small band of energy anyway) or our instruments (which are improving,
- |> >but in a way limited by our present knowledge) is called non-physical, or
- |> >meta-physical or whatever.
- |>
- |> So how about this suggestion - many (maybe not *all*) phenomena now
- |> claimed to be meta-physical are *real* but not explicable with current
- |> technology and theory. What would people have thought 200 years ago if
- |> you showed them a laptop PC? ("What? An IBM?" ;-P) How about what Clarke
- |> said - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
- |> magic" - perhaps "meta-physical" events are simply events that our
- |> technology is not sufficiently advanced to explain.
- |> (to look at Clarke's assertion another way...)
-
- So how about this suggestion -- human perception and inference are
- well known to be limited, biased, and prone to errors of many types.
- Many normal cognitive/perceptual 'heuristics' may, in some situations,
- 'yield' apparently impossible events. In addition, emotionally laden
- beliefs, such as specific religious beliefs, will color and influence
- the interpretation of such 'impossible' events as may be experienced.
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- Perhaps "meta-physical" events are cognitive illusions, and
- exist only in the "folk physics" each of us uses as an everyday
- model of the world we operate in.
-
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- Robert E. McGrath
- Urbana Illinois
- mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
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