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- From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
- Subject: re: views on consciousness
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- Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:06:45 GMT
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- The discussion about physical vs. non-physical is interesting, but perhaps
- we simply make the discussion based on our sensory abilities. If we can see
- or feel something, it's physical. Or, to move on a bit, if our instruments
- can measure it, it's physical. What is beyond our senses (which capture
- only a small band of energy anyway) or our instruments (which are improving,
- but in a way limited by our present knowledge) is called non-physical, or
- meta-physical or whatever. If there is a real fundamental difference
- between such things beyond our senses or within them is obviously something
- we can't know for sure. But just as the computer I'm printing on is really
- an illusion my senses perceive (the atoms, molecules, etc., comprise more
- empty space than matter, and if my perception was of a different nature, I
- might not even sense a structure at all), then our reality is created by our
- consciousness, by its choice (whether we can control it or not) to see some
- phenomena exclusively or in a particular manner. To that extent there may
- be a wholly unperceived world out there, which we arrogantly dismiss since
- we don't perceive it. (well, maybe WE don't arrogantly dismiss it, but many
- in our society do). I think that intuition, dreams, feelings, etc., may be
- a very interesting way of alternative perception, where our consciousness
- stretches into other realms, but ones which our culture defines as outside
- the bounds of either physical reality or scientific logic. In that sense,
- much modern science is sort of like a religion itself since it sets borders
- rather dogmatically on what is acceptable and what is not, based on the ways
- in which we are capable of perceiving. Since those assumptions are tired
- directly to our capabilities, science has considerable practical value. But
- if it can say anything about the nature of consciousness is unclear.
- Gee, I could ramble about this for hours but I'm afraid this might be
- getting boring. Keep up the interesting discussion!
- -scott erb, university of minnesota
-