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- From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
- Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.sex,soc.culture.japan
- Subject: Re: Genitals in Japan
- Date: 20 Nov 92 13:58:23 NZST
- Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
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- rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
- > rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
- >> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
-
- >>>Why can't they [the Japanese] admit a simple fact that
- >>>they did a horrible thing during/before WWII and that human
- >>>beings have public [sic] hair and genitals and do make love!
-
- >>Because it's not a simple fact. It would involve a national loss of face,
- >>which is something most Japanese I have met would not suffer gladly. The
- >>Japanese, as any Japanese-surnamed individual ought to know, are
- >>particularly thin-skinned about criticism, especially when it comes
- >>from gaijin (read: racial inferiors, i.e., the rest of the world).
-
- > Pretty inferior I guess we are, huh? They bomb Pearl, we're gaijin. We
- > blow a couple cities to hell and flame Tokyo and Yokohama and a half
- > dozen others and we're still gaijin.
-
- I believe 'gaijin' has a meaning more similar to "foreigners" or
- "Western barbarians" and carries the overtones of racial inferiority in that
- it reflects any racist attitudes that the speaker holds.
- To be called a "gaijin" by a friend would not be an insult.
-
- > MacArthur should have banned the word from the language and killed the
- > imperial line.
-
- Y'know, it's amazing what sort of ignorance is shown here. Given that the
- objective was to occupy Japan without violence or rebellion, working with
- the Imperial House as a figurehead was perhaps *the* key element leading to
- the success of the occupation. Presumably you would have preferred a more
- aggressive occupation, and sought to punish the Japanese via repartitions ?
- Like they did to Germany after WWI, which lead into WWII ?
-
- > Assholes, they lose face from all that razor stubble to keep their pussy
- > hairless!:)
-
- Gosh, Steve, I wonder *how* the dreaded Japanese ever got sterotypes of
- Westerners being crude, arrogant barbarians, when we have such wits as you
- defending us ?
- Lighten up dude. You've shown some good ideas in your posts, but in the
- main, you've displayed an appalling inability to appreciate the right of
- others to be different. That some people believe that Japanese are better
- than Caucasion (sp ?), that some believe in God, that some believe that
- females do not have to respond in ways you consider they should, are all
- things you should try to cope with, understand, and deal with on a rational
- level, rather than fulminating, frothing at the mouth, and automatically
- assuming your opinions are The Ultimate Truth. Grow up a bit, man !
- (Please forgive me for crossposting the last para. to soc.japan)
-
- Tony Q.
-