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- Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 10:36:25 CET
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- Newsgroups: alt.beer
- Subject: Re: EVILS
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- From: zedaker@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
- Subject: Re: EVILS
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.233456.15483@wam.umd.edu>
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- References: <1992Nov20.172852.7409@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:34:56 GMT
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- >In article <1992Nov20.172852.7409@midway.uchicago.edu>
- >stuart@violet.uchicago.edu.cs (Stuart A Kurtz) writes:
- >> > Beer drinkers must repent. Alcohol drunk for pleasure is sinfull.
- >> > Not only does it give man the mind of a cock, but it makes him
- >> > impotent-both spiritually and physically.
- >> >
- >> > This is from Jason.
- >>
- >> And no smiley! Perhaps assuming that the original posting was serious
- >> is in error, but as Luther said, "Sin boldly, but trust God more boldly
- >> still!"
- >>
- >> Jason,
- >>
- >> As far as I know, Islam and Mormon are the only major religions in the
- >> west that view the drinking of alcohol for pleasure as intrisically
- >> sinful (no slight intended if I have missed your personal dry
- >> religion!), yet the overwhelming majority of the ethical police on the
- >> net are Christian. I assume for this reason that you are Christian.
- >>
- >> It would be remarkable for any *Christian* to oppose the consumption of
- >> alcoholic beverages for pleasure. Jesus himself not only consumed
- >> alcoholic beverages for pleasure (cf. Luke 7:31-35), but is reported to
- >> have miraculously converted water to wine at the wedding at Cana (cf.
- >> John 2:1-11). So, assuming that you are Christian, you are
- >> (1) denying the validity of the Gospel testamony concerning Jesus;
- >and/or
- >> (2) asserting that Jesus was sinful.
- >> To the best of my knowledge, all manifestations of Christianity likely
- >> to produce ethical police would view either of these propositions as
- >> anathema.
- >>
- >> Alcohol, like sex, food, and friends, are all gifts of a loving God.
- >> We can enjoy these gifts responsibly, or abuse them as we choose.
- >> Clearly abusing God's gifts is sinful, but is not also sinful to deny
- >> the giver?
- >>
- >> Peace,
- >>
- >> Stu
- >
- >****I couldn't have said it better myself, Stu. --Pam****
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- PLEASE, PLEASE continue in alt.religion.nobeer||||
- There is NO POINT in discussing religious opinions in alt.beer |||
- I think Jesus is old enough to be able to difference between GOOD and
- EVIL people by himself, so let him do his job and let us think about our
- own matters and don't bother peaceful people.
- ...
- BTW: If beer drinking for pleasure is sinful, then Water Drinking for
- pleasure is sinful. So, sin for sin, I prefer beeing sinful with beer...
- ...
- Regards, Werner.
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