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- From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
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- Subject: Re: Recommended Bottled Beers For Beginning Beer Drinkers, Revision 6
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 21:22:30 GMT
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- Companion to the Beginner's Beer List, Revision 6 (November 17, 1992)
-
- [I must have missed revision 5!]
-
- As a service to the truly beer-deprived, here's my classification of
- the beer which appears on Jon Noring's Beginner's List. Note that
- descriptions of beers and beer styles are strictly my opinion, based
- on only 15 years of (non-continual) beer-drinking. For knowledge from a
- true master, I heartily recommend one of Jackson's books. If you are
- truly offended by my ratings, send me a bottle or three of the beer in
- question, and I'll make a serious attempt to reconsider my opinion.
-
- For this issue, I've updated a few entries (Pete's fans take note!),
- though I'm still lagging on trying some of the ones which are new to
- me. I promise to do better before the next posting. Also, just to
- stay a step ahead of Mr Noring, I've alphabetized them within each
- category (at least to the best of the ability of a college graduate).
- *************************************************************************
-
- Basic lagers: These are beers brewed with bottom-fermenting lager yeasts,
- but *aren't* seasonal brews like bock, Octoberfest, etc. With my Germanic
- blood, when I think "beer", I think of these kinds of things. My personal
- list would include Spaten Munich, a good, solid beer. I'd also put the
- generically-named "dark" beer here, like Gartenbrau Dark, Beck's Dark,
- or Heineken Dark. Darks tend to have a bit more body, and a bit of dark-
- roasted malt flavor.
-
- Capital Gartenbrau - good; their dark is even better-- Wisconsin's
- finest! Get it fresh at the Memorial Union at UW-Madison.
- Dominion Lager - never had it
- Foster Lager - Aussie contribution. It's been awhile since I've
- had one, but I recall it as only a little better than mass-brewed
- American. Cooper's products have more character.
- Grolsch Lager - Dutch lager, probably brewed for export. I've had
- a hard time finding non-skunked Grolsch. Just OK when handled
- properly.
- Harp Lager - fairly ordinary for a lager, not as malty as some.
- Henry Weinhard's - Never had it.
- Leinenkugel - definitely a regional beer, it was my mainstay when
- I was in college (and before I developed my currently discerning
- palate :-). Not a great beer, but it's reasonably cheap.
- Negra Modelo - one of the few Mexican beers I like. It's dark in
- color, but has just a touch of roasted malt flavor.
- Red Stripe - Jamaican brew. Had one on St. Lucia, after which I
- stuck with rum drinks.
- Samuel Adams Boston Lager - good; I prefer the Stock Ale slightly
-
- Basic ales: These are beers brewed with top-fermenting ale yeasts. I
- include pale ales, which are generally hoppier, fruitier, and lightier-
- bodied than the standard english-style ale like Bass. I also include the
- ambers here, since most ambers I've quaffed are ales. They generally are
- slightly darker and have more body than pale ales. Again, I've left out
- specialty brews. Also, try a Scotch ale (Belhaven, MacAndrew's, McEwen's);
- they're generally stronger and maltier than their English cousins.
-
- Albany Amber - Decent, but more hop flavor would make for a better
- balanced brew, in my opinion.
- Anchor Liberty Ale - good American ale
- Anchor Steam - good; really a lager, but brewed at warmer ale temp-
- eratures. At any rate, this is where I classify it.
- Ballantine India Pale Ale - had this once. I don't remember, so it
- can't be amazingly great, eh?
- Ballard Bitter - never had it
- Bass Ale - very "accessible" English ale, widely available in the US. It
- seems to lose a lot in the bottling process, so try it on tap.
- Double Diamond - been awhile for this one, too. I remember it as
- average for a bottled British ale, so it's probably decent.
- Full Sail Amber Ale - This has got to be regional, right? Never had it.
- Fuller's ESB - haven't had one recently. I think it's one of those
- that do much better on tap.
- Geary Pale Ale - OK, especially on tap while sitting in a Bar Harbor
- brewpub
- Harpoon Golden Ale - pedestrian
- New Amsterdam Amber Beer - After seeing this one appear on Jon's list,
- this became my favorite "everyday" beer. It's got a nice balance
- between malt and hops.
- Newcastle Brown Ale - similar to Samuel Smith's, more metallic
- Old Peculier - I've had this, but it's been awhile. It's a strong
- dark ale, so be prepared.
- Pete's Wicked Ale - I finally had a good Pete's, after four previous
- disappointing pints-- on tap and fresh, it has a great hoppy flavor.
- Quality seems inconsistent, though.
- Red Tail Ale - never had it
- Red Hook Ale - never had it
- Red Hook ESB - never had it
- Samuel Adams Stock Ale - my second favorite "everyday" beer, though
- owner Koch's litiginousness is getting annoying.
- Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale - good, slightly nutty, somewhat metallic
- taste. Flavor doesn't justify its high price.
- Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - my spouse's favorite; nice appley flavor
- Watney's Red Barrel - something of a joke in England, still quite good
- when compared to typical US swill (value judgment there!). Bass,
- Whitbread, John Courage are all better, though.
- Whitbread Ale - good English ale
-
- Pilsner - a distinctive style of light lager with a flowery
- hoppiness and dry aftertaste; not to be confused with so-called
- pilsners brewed by US megabreweries.
-
- Aass Pilsner - never had it, but if their Bock is any indication,
- it's a fine brew.
- Bitburger Pilsner - never had it.
- Pilsner Urquell - the definitive Pilsner, from Pilsen, Czechoslovakia.
- Light, hoppy, satisfying. Note that my spelling of both Plzen and
- Czechoslovakia may vary.
- Tsingtao - Chinese, light body. Essential as accompaniment to
- Chinese takeout, otherwise go for the Pilsner Urquell.
- Warsteiner Pilsner - had a bottle recently. Apparently it didn't
- survive the journey, since it was flat and bland.
-
- Stouts/Porters: the really dark stuff, usually ales. Vary in character
- from bitter through sweet, from smooth through coarse. For a sweet stout,
- try Mackeson XXX. (For lower-left/upper-right coasters, try porter on tap
- at the Crown City brewpub in Pasadena, CA, or the porter & stout at the
- Commonwealth Brewery in Boston, MA.)
-
- Anchor Porter - one of my favorites, really a bit too smooth to be
- called a porter, but great nonetheless. For a more characteristic
- porter, try Sierra Nevada's or Catamount's offerings.
- Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout - never had it.
- Black Hawk Stout - never had it.
- Grant's Imperial Stout - Tried this one again recently. Intense
- burnt malt and hop flavor, chocolatey aroma.
- Guinness Draft - Is this the one with the doo-hickey in the can?
- If so, haven't tried it. I *did* have a six of bottled Draft
- which a friend brought direct from the brewery. It was better
- than even the imported draught!
- Guinness Stout - the classic Irish stout, bitter yet smooth. Can be
- quite different in different countries and in different containers.
- Undeniably the best to be had is on tap at the brewery in Dublin.
- In this country, try it anywhere on tap-- it's smoother and less
- bitter than the bottled variety.
- Mackeson XXX - a fine example of a sweet stout. I think this is
- a milk stout, which uses lactose (milk sugar) for brewing and
- priming. The quintessential dessert beer.
- Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout - tastes like burnt chocolate chip cookies.
- I like an oatmeal stout every now and then, though Young's is
- cheaper, and almost as good.
- Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter - I've had this, but don't remember what
- it was like. Since I'm a stout/porter fanatic, I'm probably
- content with the cheaper and more widely available Anchor Porter.
- Sierra Nevada Stout - Decent stout, a little rougher than I like.
- Sierra Nevada Porter - Probably my second favorite porter. Smoother
- than the stout (or am I getting them mixed up?).
- Yuengling Porter - cheap yet drinkable. I had a couple recently, and
- had to strain my taste buds to detect the faint burnt malt flavor,
- which should really stand out in a porter.
-
- Barley Wines: very strong beers (generally 6-11% alcohol), brewed with
- special yeast which doesn't get pickled at high alcohol levels. Can have
- very complex qualities. Not everybody's cup of tea, but worth a try.
- My favorite in this style is Thomas Hardy's Ale.
-
- Anchor Old Foghorn - good; not as complex as Thomas Hardy.
- Old Nick - it's been awhile, but I remember it as having the
- distinct warming character of a barley wine. Nifty label, too,
- probably banned in Texas.
- Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Ale - similar flavor to their Pale Ale, but in
- the characteristic barley wine style. More carbonated and less
- syrupy than other BW's I've had, thus the most accessible.
-
- Specialty beers: This is a catch-all category. Beers can either be
- just a different (maltier, lighter) version of the brewery's standard
- product, a completely different style, a fruit-flavored or spiced beer,
- etc. Also, I've put in this category beers which don't really have much
- in common taste-wise with those in the above lists. My favorite US beer
- in this category is Anchor's Christmas beer; usually available in early
- December, the recipes changes every year, but is always worth waiting
- for and tracking down (I get it in Austin, Texas every year, since I
- haven't found it locally).
-
- Chimay Blue/Grande Reserve - darker and stronger than Red; my favorite
- Chimay. Reserve is the same brew, but in a 3/4-liter corked bottle.
- Chimay Red - words can't do justice to a good Belgian abbey-brewed ale.
- Suffice it to say that if I had to restrict my beer-drinking to
- the product of a single country, it would be that of Belgium.
- Chimay Red is a good, generally-available introduction to these
- brews. Available in 12-oz capped bottles, or in the 3/4-liter
- corked bottle. Curiously enough, the corked version tastes smoother.
- Duvel - never had it; a Belgian ale.
- Orval - the most money I've paid for a beer. It was extremely
- perfumy, and not too my taste, especially for the price.
- Paulaner Salvator dopplebock - classic doublebock. More than one
- double bock tend to give me a headache.
- Samuel Adams Double Bock - bock is a maltier, usually darker lager,
- traditionally brewed in the fall for drinking in the spring.
- Double bock is a stronger (~7.5% alcohol) version of bock. Some
- purists quibble over the "double" designation of this one; I don't.
- More headaches.
- Samuel Adams Winter Lager - not too impressive; drink their standard
- lager or ale.
- Samuel Adams Octoberfest - a maltier version of the lager. Again, stick
- to their standard products.
- Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale - I remember this as a maltier version
- of their Pale Ale, brewed around Christmas. Could be wrong.
- Sierra Nevada Pale Bock - puts to rest the commonly-held misconception
- that bocks are always dark-colored. I remember this as being a
- stronger version of the pale ale.
- Spaten Oktoberfest - great beer, similar to but maltier than the Munich.
- Spaten Optimator - my favorite double bock. Still gives me headaches,
- though.
- Westmalle Tripel - another abbey ale; I've never had it.
- --
- Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
-