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- From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
- Subject: Re: DC: You just can't ...
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.215130.21133@news.columbia.edu>
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- References: <1992Jul28.203838.18809@brtph560.bnr.ca>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:51:30 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul28.203838.18809@brtph560.bnr.ca> kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
- >
- >1) Fantasizing about rape is sick. When I say rape I mean true rape. That is
-
- Well, there's no reason for DC to be the only one to call you up on
- this. You might think he's the only one to disagree with you. Why do you think
- it is sick? Why? DC can cite references showing that rape fantasies are very
- common. You can argue with the data, or you can make up an argument that
- even though they are common, they are wrong. But you eventually have to
- put up or shut up. You statment is unsupported opinion. DC and others try
- to provide some evidence for thier arguments. The ball is in your court.
-
- >
- >
- >
- >7) I would rather blindly attack the problem of rape in our society than sit
- > around waiting for something to happen while people like yourself go
- > right on compiling lists of flicks with rape scenes and telling people it
- > is a-ok to have fantasies about forcing another person to have sex with
- > them.
-
- The problem with this is that if you should be wrong in your assesment
- of the needs of society to stop rape (the only idea you have suggested as far
- as I know is to execute convicted rapists), you are having the effect of
- stopping others from doing what may be in the best interests of society.
- The question is: in a free society where rape is very rare, will there
- be lists of rape scenes, and movies with those rape scenes? I believe that
- DC's list will help prevent rape (in a very small way, but a positive one).
- I believe that the way to stop rape is to increase sexual freedom, and to me
- "Fantasizing about rape is sick" moves in completely the opposite direction
- from where you want to go.
-
- >
- >8) I'll only tell you this one time. Leave my wife out of your post. I can
- > assure you that I am serious on this point. I am deadly serious. You are
-
- I think you should decide what you can talk about, and what you can't,
- before you post. It's not possible to argue with you if we have to worry
- about stepping on landmines.
- You are absolutely right, _you_ brought you wife into the argument. In
- fact she was the sole reason for you articles. As far as I am concerned,
- you have only two choices, retract statment 8, or 'u' this group, and
- don't come back.
-
- DanZ
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