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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: DC: I didn't threaten Amy ...
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.144942.8971@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 27 Jul 92 14:49:42 EST
- References: <1992Jul27.133426.25380@brtph560.bnr.ca>
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- In article <1992Jul27.133426.25380@brtph560.bnr.ca>, kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
- > *VERY* satisfying experience.
- >
- > You know guy, I think the fundamental difference between you and I is that I
- > was brought up to believe that men have a sacred duty to respect and honor
- > women. To protect them from harm at *ALL* cost. To treat them as equals
- > and joint heirs to the kingdom of God.
-
- At ALL costs? Meaning if a few innocent men get executed in the process, c'est
- la vie?
-
- We were brought up differently. I was taught to treat them as equals. Partners
- in life on this Earth.
-
- To me even the thought of rape, true
- > rape, is abhorant to my very nature. I believe that such values are totally
- > lacking from your up-bringing.
-
- Of course you do. Because you do not have the ability to distinguish between
- prettedn and reality. However, just because you only see black and white does
- not mean colors do not exist.
-
- >
- > As for your posts regarding the differences between war hero fantasies and
- > rape fantasies, notice the word HERO. A hero is one admired for his great
- > courage and nobility (see Websters New World Dictionary).
-
- What of the people he kills? Those who are very much like him, but simply have
- on cloth of a different color?
-
- Because we are at war with his country, killing him makes one great? Tell me,
- do we revere the heros of countries that fought against us? If one of them
- killed several American soldiers, would you give him great respect?
-
- What if it was your father the hero killed?
-
- Your wife?
-
- I don't think that
- > there is anything couragous or noble about raping someone. On the contrary,
- > rape is the most cowardly, ignoble act I personally can imagine. An argument
- > can be made that war is a highly moral activity.
-
- As Napolean (sp) said "Morality belongs on the side with the larger cannons".
- Whoever WINS the war is just??? Does that also apply to gang-fights?
-
- No such argument can be
- > made about rape. I don't think fantasizing about killing people in war is a
- > good idea. However, if I had to choose between the two, the war hero fantasy
- > would win everytime. Hands down. No contest.
-
- Gee, if presented with a choice, you would take killing over raping? You would
- kill the husband in front of the wife instead of raping the wife in front of
- the husband? Would you offer them the choice? Or impose your own views upon
- them? In real life, I am talking, as you seem unable to discern a difference
- between thinking about something and doing it.
-
-
- > P.S.: If anyone besides DC reads this and is offended by my references to
- > God or my position on Man's role vis-a-vis Women, please excuse me.
- > It's just my belief system showin' through. No offense intended.
-
- No. You are permitted to have, and voice your beliefs in your God. It is when
- you try to legislate them, or force others to adhere to them, that one becomes
- as despicable as the fundimaentalists of the Middle East.
-
-
- DC
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