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- From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: Re: Free will
- Message-ID: <zlsiida.1039@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>
- Date: 23 Jul 92 12:58:55 GMT
- References: <1992Jul22.075422.27506@a.cs.okstate.edu> <1992Jul22.125508.10715@pellns.alleg.edu>
- Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
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- In article <1992Jul22.125508.10715@pellns.alleg.edu> frisinv@pell50.alleg.edu (Vincent Frisina) writes:
-
- > I still disagree that there is a conflict. The kind of demterminism you
- >need to destroy free will doesn't exist at all on the microscopic level or
- >in a macroscopic living system. Use whatever laws of physics or biology
- >you wish; you will havbe no idea what I will do next. You could apply
- >psychology, sociology, or any other socxial science but they arfe far from
- >deterministic.
-
- It doesn't matter whether I or anybody else can predict what you will do
- next, all that matters is whether your choice of what to do next is entirely
- unconstrained.
-
- > The physics in a biology text offers no determinism either. It
- >predicts nothing about the organism's action. Physics is still at peace
- >with free will.
-
- Are not biological systems ultimately constructed from atomic or sub-atomic
- particles? Are not these particles subject to the laws of physics? are not
- the laws of physics deterministic? (excepting *possibly* quantum theories)
-
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