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- From: onstott@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONSTOTT CHARLES OR)
- Subject: Re: Free will
- References: <1992Jul20.051558.14985@news.eng.convex.com>
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.075422.27506@a.cs.okstate.edu>
- Organization: Oklahoma State University
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 07:54:22 GMT
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- From article <1992Jul20.051558.14985@news.eng.convex.com>, by cash@convex.com (Peter Cash):
- > In article <1992Jul19.014518.13885@pellns.alleg.edu> frisinv@pell50.alleg.edu (Vincent Frisina) writes:
- >
- >> I also don't see the conflict between physics and free will. Physics
- >>does not deal with any living or self-ordering system which is the only
- >>thing that can have a free will.
- >
- > Yes, I share your puzzlement. I simply don't understand how people can
- > discuss "free will" in this thread without ever telling anyone what it is,
- > and I have no idea whatever what physics has to do with this "free will".
-
- I made a reply to Frisina's comment above, but I am not sure if it
- made it out there. In sum, the connection between physics and
- life-ordering systems is made quite strongly in several fields of
- biology. One will note that even the beginning biology text includes
- a discussion of physics.
-
- However, in terms of the "conflict" I had already stated in my
- original posting something to the effect that one shouldn't reconcile
- physics and free-will simply because they weren't meant to be.
-
- Apropos Cash's demand for a definition, we find a strong relevence
- here. To establish what is meant by freewill, we first must reconstruct
- Being, establish Dasein's position within Being(ie, as in the care
- structure of Heidegger), and realize the necessity to choose as a result
- of Dasein's throwness. These ideas can become clear if one takes
- the time to actually read _Being and Time_ and not assume that it is
- nonsensical. In terms of ontic descriptions of free will, we find
- that "choosing" is the only thing that exists. However, I am trying
- to claim, along with Heidegger, that the original conflict between
- physics(I say "original" not the one I am discussing) and free will
- is a result of relying on purely ontical facts. This is a requirement
- of physics, but not necessarily so of free will. The ontic origination
- of the sciences creates any perceived conflict in the first place as
- we fall into an Interpretation of free will in the present-at-hand
- mode of Being. From this point onward, when I refer to free will
- I refer to the notion of 'choosing from throwness' which permeates
- Heideggers initial text. Beyond that, I can't give much of a defintion
- as it only takes Heidegger 300 pages to develop one.
-
- BCnya,
- Charles Onstott, III
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- Charles O. Onstott, III Account at Oklahoma State University for summer.
- Graduate Student in Religious Studies onstott@a.cs.okstate.edu
- University of Chicago
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- Sorry guys, no quote from C. G. Jung for now...
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