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- From: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Subject: Re: Abortion and Infanticide
- Message-ID: <1992Jul26.171120.22168@ncsu.edu>
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- Reply-To: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Organization: North Carolina State University
- References: <1992Jul22.014836.6377@ncsu.edu> <1992Jul22.101440.23207@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1992Jul24.153727.6528@ncsu.edu> <1992Jul24.161316.12037@hemlock.cray.com>
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- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:11:20 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul24.161316.12037@hemlock.cray.com>
- mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson) writes:
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- >dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
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- >>tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa) writes:
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- >>>In some article...dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
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- >>>> But why doesn't the fetus enjoy the same right to bodily autonomy?
- >>>> In the vast majority of abortions, the fetus is either vacuumed out
- >>>> of the womb or scraped out, thus killing it in the process.
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- >>> I think the big reason is because it is not autonomous. Show me a fetus
- >>> that cannot survive without a host to leech off of, and then I'd agree that
- >>> it was autonomous.
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- >> A newborn infant sucking on its mother's breast is not "autonomous",
- >> If a newborn infant and its mother were isolated from civilization,
- >> and the mother had only her breast milk to feed the infant, then the
- >> newborn infant would not be "autonomous" by your definition, and hence
- >> it would not enjoy the right to bodily autonomy.
-
- > Excuse me, Doug. I Have nursed three infants, and these
- > particular three precocious little darlings were able to
- > pull away from the breast at will, and, of their own volition,
- > decide to cry for awhile or take a nap instead of nursing.
-
- I don't see how this is relevant to the original definition of
- "autonomous" given by Mr. Tjoa. He implied that a human
- being who could not survive "without a host to leech off of"
- would not be autonomous, and hence that human being would not
- possess the right to bodily autonomy. Are you offering a new
- definition of "autonomous"?
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- >muriel
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- Doug Holtsinger
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