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- From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
- Subject: Re: I have a little list...
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- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:11:11 GMT
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- In article <9949@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes:
- >In article <1992Jul23.193434.10646@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
-
- >> This was the thought of some early on. This was one hypothesized
- >> reason why people like Pons and Fleischmann were able to get results
- >> while people like Gai who surrounded their detectors with
- >> oodles of lead and cinderblocks did not. Of course, at that time
- >> there was a bunch of speculation about novel particles, not ordinary
- >> old gammas and alphas.
- >
- >Right. There was much speculation about muons and other cosmic rays in
- >particular, plus possible novel particles as final products or as part
- >of the mechanism.
- >
- >However, it is not true that all experiments were shielded or that all
- >shielded experiments got null results.
-
- True, which is one reason (among many others) why the hypothesis
- fell into abeyance. Another thing detracted from the plausibility.
- It was difficult to understand why certain people at altitude and certain
- people not at altitude got results, while others at altitude and
- not at altitude did not. Of course, if it were gammas, that
- could easily explain the intermittency seen in some experiments.
-
- However, is it just me or does Ying's mechanism seem a bit
- contrived?
-
- Well, there's always the solar cycle ...
-
- >There was also a Jones experiment done in a mine near Leadville that
- >was below a separate experiment that was looking at very high energy
- >cosmic rays. He saw bursts of neutrons (at a level hundreds of times
- >weaker than his original paper reported) at very infrequent intervals.
- >The timing of these bursts was then checked with events seen at the
- >surface experiment and it was noted that there was no correlation.
-
- Funny, I have always felt that Jones' experiments were even more
- questionable than PF (no offense intended to Dr. Jones who could
- probably be more profitably employed doing something else). At
- least Pons and Fleischmann claimed a substantial effect.
-
- dale bass
- --
- C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
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