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- From: long@next1.acme.ucf.edu (Richard Long)
- Subject: Re: Ying Experiment
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.131927.29323@cs.ucf.edu>
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- Organization: University of Central Florida
- References: <920722135155.242008a0@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:19:27 GMT
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- In article <920722135155.242008a0@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE writes:
- > We are running a pseudo Ying experiment - this is the present status.
- >
- (etc)
- Ying has apparently not attempted to operate with alternate
- > stimulation on and off periods. (Source for this either Gene Mallove or
- Jed
- > Rothwell from conversations with Shults.) This seemed like an obvious
- > experiment to me and this process was started as soon as it looked like
- there
- > might be some effect. The first few points were taken while still
- feeling out
- > the experiment. The last period is not yet complete. We are attempting
- to
- > alternate 24 hour periods of gamma on and off. Sometimes I sleep or go
- to
- > parties, etc., so the period is irregular.
- >
- >
- >
- > Gamma Duration Duration Accumulated Estimated Average
- > Status Seconds Hours Net Joules Error-J Power - watts
- >
- > On 17760 4.9 532.8 49 0.0300 +/-
- 0.0027
- > Off 48060 13.4 1268.8 50 0.0264 +/-
- 0.0010
- > On 87300 24.3 2715.0 100 0.0311 +/-
- 0.0011
- > Off 77220 21.5 1621.6 50 0.0210 +/-
- 0.0006
- > On 82740 23.0 3607.5 50 0.0436 +/-
- 0.0006
- > Off 51840 14.4 1658.9 50 0.0320 +/-
- 0.0010
- >
- > The error limits are based on an eleven day calibration run. They are
- > relative measurements only and reflect the stability of the calorimeter.
- The
- > maximum change from balance during any one hour was 10 joules. Over any
- 24
- > hour period it was 50 joules. Over any 10 day period it was 100 joules.
- The
- > calorimeter configuration is not quite the same as during the
- calibration
- > runs. See the Como proceedings paper for a few more details on the
- > calibration. In spite of spending many, many hours on calibration I
- think the
- > numbers are optimistic. But they are all I have. There is no good way
- to
- > insert a feeling of mistrust for being fooled by calorimetry. I just do
- the
- > calibration experiments and that is what they show. Note that this
- "worst
- > observation over n hours" is more like a three sigma than one sigma
- error
- > limit - but I am not statistically literate. Still, I am nervous.
- >
- > The measurements should be considered to have only relative accuracy. I
- do
- > not know the location of the calorimeter zero any better than 150
- milliwatts.
- > The calorimeter constant was set to give zero after the power problem
- during a
- > time that I believed that there was no "anomalous heat".
- >
- > I leave it to you, my jury, to decide what if any significance these
- > measurements have. The next obvious experiment is to change the
- intensity of
- > the source, and to use the recommended procedure. All in good time as
- we get
- > the stuff. I remind you all that god has a gamma ray source and he
- (used she
- > last time) capriciously turns it on and off.
- >
- > Tom Droege
-
- I had only hoped to get vague hints as to what you were doing with Ying's
- stuff, so I very happy that you can reveal as much as you have. Thanks
- Tom!
-
- From conversations with Shults and Dr. Chow in the UCF physics Dept. (who,
- by the way does not believe Ying's results. He says that the probablity
- of tunneling is 10e-70 and so no amount of boson addition will help. He
- worked with Ying on the experiment for 8 months with gamma only and got no
- results, but back to my point) the setup doen't work with Co60 gamma
- alone or Po210 alpha alone, but only when they are combined! Personally,
- I don't understand why this could be true, unless a more conventional
- series of transmutation and decay processes are going on, as opposed to
- Ying's stimulated emission. Any ideas as to why they need to be combined?
-
-
- --
- Richard Long
- Institute for Simulation and Training
- University of Central Florida
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