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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
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- Subject: Re: Is car pooling for real? (was Re: Are bikes really less polluting?)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.163032.27744@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 16:30:32 GMT
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- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
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- In article <1992Jul27.175448.11019@hellgate.utah.edu> tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:
- >
- >You fail to see this because we charge so little for oil. Soon, oil will run
- >out (100yrs soon) and then we will not be able to afford our stupid energy
- >consumption extravagences. We are no closer to any realistic plan because
- >we are so shortsided we are pissing into the wind, and it soon will blow
- >back into our face.
-
- $1 a gallon gasoline won't last forever, made from sweet crude oil.
- But $1.50 a gallon *synthetic* gasoline is available from coal with the
- Fischer process (and several others), and we have a 3,000 year supply
- in the continental US. Tar sands are another vast untapped source of
- oils suitable for synthetic gasoline production. The Peace River, Wabasca,
- and Cold Lake deposits in Canada alone hold 890 billion barrel equivalents.
- Shale oil in the Western US is another vast untapped supply. $1.75 a gallon
- ethanol from biomass is indefinitely available.
-
- Other countries tax gasoline so heavily that it costs greater than $4
- a gallon *today*, yet their automotive transport system has not collapsed.
- All of the alternatives to natural gasoline listed above are cheaper than
- that.
-
- We may choose to go to the more environmentally friendly nuclear power
- instead of tapping some of these resources. That will require good
- electric cars or a hydrogen economy. It should still cost less than
- $4 a gallon equivalent and advanced breeder cycles are good for millions
- of years.
-
- Gary
- >
- >
- >Just because I own no bed and earn 40% less than the poverty level doesn't
- >mean I am poor.
- >
- >
- >
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