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- From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Converting the masses
- Keywords: four-vectors
- Message-ID: <9909@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>
- Date: 21 Jul 92 18:57:24 GMT
- References: <mcirvin.711489157@husc10> <130889@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <mcirvin.711673227@husc8> <1992Jul21.141253.17366@jlc.mv.com>
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- Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
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- In article <1992Jul21.141253.17366@jlc.mv.com> john@jlc.mv.com (John Leslie) writes:
- >In article <mcirvin.711673227@husc8> mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin) writes:
- >>dk@imager (Dave Knapp) writes:
- >>
- >>In fact, I think that a more important issue than the definition of
- >>mass is the use of four-vectors in introductory classes teaching SR,
- >>which I think should be encouraged, since it brings beauty and
- >>simplicity to something which otherwise looks like an algebraic junkheap
- >>built on a shifting foundation of paradoxes.
-
- Nice statement. The "algebraic junkheap" was how I viewed it when I first
- tried to work through SR back in high school. Of course, the following
- query tells you why intro classes do not use this particular formulation...
-
- > Could someone have mercy on those of us whose college physics is
- >twenty or more years in the past? What is "four-vectors"?
-
- A "four-vector" is a vector with 4 components, normally used in physics
- when one wants to treat space and time as the 4 components of a single
- vector space called "space-time" for short. It works just like regular
- geometry with "three-vectors" except the meaning of the distance between
- two points is altered in a significant way. What is nice about this
- approach (besides the fact that it is crucial to use it if you want to
- do general relativity) is that it makes it very clear that the Lorentz
- transforms are just a rotation in this 4-space, and nothing more.
-
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