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- From: snodgras@crash.cts.com (John Snodgrass)
- Subject: Re: A Brief History of Tripe
- Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:41:43 GMT
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- In <1992Jul18.233946.13851@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> burtt@crs.cl.msu.edu (Brian Burtt) writes:
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- > In each of their times, Newton and Hawking were/are brilliant
- >mathematical physicists. You call Hawking 'pathetic' because of his
- >disabilities. I think he is a hero, having overcome the problems
-
- Hawking is what he is, as we all are. Everyone is crippled in some
- way, if you choose to look at it like that. My bone to pick with Hawking,
- and with the ideas he is a proponent of, is not because he's 'a cripple',
- though as I said, I feel his particular disability is too rich a metaphor
- with what is wrong with the new physics to pass up. That's all. I think the
- whole subjectivist movement is the disolution of science into pathos.
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- >that would cause most people to give up on life, and accomplishing
- >more than most able-bodied people. I only hope that, being an able
- >bodied person myself, I can accomplish as a physicist a small fraction
- >of what Hawking (or Newton) has done. Granted, neither Newton nor
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- Sometimes people accomplish things by doing them wrong, because in
- that way they establish the non-viability of certain approaches. IMO this is
- what Hawking (and others) has accomplished. Ultimately I think science does
- come down to trial and error, that there is no escaping this. But when
- something doesn't pan out, there comes a time to say 'enough is enough'!
- This may not be easy, since tens of thousands of people may have based
- entire careers on the current paradigm: they're hardly going to take an
- even-handed 'scientific' approach to the problem. They have kids to feed.
- This is where you're still a little starry-eyed, I fear.
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- >Hawking are the most pleasant of personalities--most geniuses aren't.
- >Let's join together in the common cause: working to understand this
- >glorious and complex word and universe we live in.
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-
- Philosophies and cosmologies compete just like industries. In an age
- of information, territory has become conceptual. The sooner you realize this,
- the further you will get in science; it's not a harmonius situation --
- you're going to have to fight to get your ideas accepted.
-
- >-- Brian Burtt
- >Undergraduate astrophysics major-- Michigan State University
- >
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