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- From: phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert)
- Subject: Re: Whale killing for "science" -- so for what?
- Message-ID: <phfrom.201@nyx.uni-konstanz.de>
- Keywords: Whales, whale killing
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- Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Constance
- References: <phfrom.160@nyx.uni-konstanz.de> <heine.711372713@barsoom> <phfrom.174@nyx.uni-konstanz.de> <1992Jul20.154542.29027@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:50:39 GMT
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- arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
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- >In article <phfrom.174@nyx.uni-konstanz.de> phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert) writes:
- >>Contributions to these magazines are usually written by serious scientists.
- >>So having a language, well-developed social behavior, etc. are not
- >>manifestations of intelligence.
-
- >Communicating with one another is not a language, and reacting to the actions
- >of one another is not "social behavior" in the sense that humans have social
- >behavior. Otherwise, computers and ants are intelligent.
-
- Please, leave this discussion on sci.misc for the future.
-
- As a response to your statement I mention that I only listed few examples
- for the manifestation of the intelligence of whales. As was stated on
- sci.misc in the meantime, even the weight ratio brain/body is similar to
- human (!) for dolphins and orcas.
-
- FYI: The language of whales is based on sound (I think infra sound) and in
- the case of dolphins sufficiently developed so that they can communicate
- even without sight contact, and over larger distances. Covering the eyes
- of one dolphin and giving optical signals to a second is communicated to
- the first so that s/hecan react appropriately. Also think of the
- "songs of the whales" -- some people compare it to culture/art.
-
- Everybody who wants may read one of the books on the social behavior of
- whales, so that I don't give details here.
-
- [remark on Galileo deleted]
-
- Hope this clears some facts.
- --
- Hartmut Frommert, LS Dehnen, Physics, | E-Mail: <phfrom@dknkurz1.bitnet>
- Univ of Constance, P.O.Box 55 60, | or <phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de>
- D-W-7750 Constance, Germany | + SAVE THE WHALES ! BOYCOTT NORWAY ! +
- Phone: +49-(0)7531-88-3747 | + Whales R intelligent. Whale killers not. +
- + Whale killing is murder. Eating whales is cannibalism. Eat whale killers. +
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