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- From: rose@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (Kermit Rose)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: An interesting limit problem.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul26.211305.21091@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
- Date: 31 Jul 92 15:39:15 GMT
- References: <1992Jul25.212844.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> <1992Jul25.201805.14172@husc3.harvard.edu>
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- In article <1992Jul25.201805.14172@husc3.harvard.edu>, elkies@ramanujan.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies) writes...
- >In article <1992Jul25.212844.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au>
- >mattm@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
- >
- >>A challenge to all mathematicians. A 100 years ago, this would probably have
- >>been solved fairly simply in a natural way, but can you? I think that this
- >>problem was first posed by the Russian mathematician Arnold. Hope you find this
- >>problem as interesting as I did when I first solved it.
- >>
- >> sin(tan x) - tan(sin x)
- >> lim ---------------------------------- = ???
- >> x->0 arcsin(arctan x) - arctan(arcsin x)
- >
- >I don't know how they sould have done this 100 years ago. One direct
- >approach is to expand both numerator and denominator in Taylor series
- >about x=0 and compare leading terms. Since we're doing this today instead
- >of 100 years ago, we can obtain the Taylor expansions instantaneously using
- >a symbolic manipulation package. We find that both numerator and denominator
- >are -x^7/30+O(x^9), so the limit equals 1. This also suggests that you
- >*don't* want to find this limit using the L'Hospital rule, especially if
- >you have to do all the derivatives by hand!
- >
- >--Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu)
- > Dept. of Mathematics, Harvard University
-
- Indeed. The fact that the limit is 1 suggests that we could have simplied
- the problem by taken the sin of the denominator. Since z/sin(z) goes to 1
- as z goes to zero, we could proceed as follows. Let z1 be the numerator in
- the above. Let z2 be the denominator. Find the limit of z1/sin(z2) as x
- goes to zero. This should be 1. In any case, the limit of z1/z2 will be
- limit (z1/sin(z2) ) limit(sin(z2)/z2).
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