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- Subject: Re: An interesting limit problem.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul29.000223.27339@massey.ac.nz>
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- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:02:23 GMT
- References: <1992Jul25.212844.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> <Bs1xzu.DFp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Jul28.191037.28756@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
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- In article <1992Jul28.191037.28756@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mapsj@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Simon Juden) writes:
- >
- > >mattm@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
- >
- > [stuff deleted]
- >
- > >Will someone please back me up, and say that no one learning
- > >Calculus should ever be allowed anywhere _NEAR_ Mathematica?
- > >(When I say 'learning Calculus' I mean the first two or three
- > >semesters)
- >
- > I could hardly agree more. Mathematica should be viewed as a fancy calculator
- > (which, essentially, is what it is). Very good and very useful, BUT undergrads
- > HAVE to learn basic concepts and manipulative skills before they're let near
- > it. Otherwise they will never become mathematicians, but rather computer
- > operators. Also they'll never FULLY understand subtle concepts or follow harder
- > arguments used in difficult proofs if they haven't had to do things with their
- > bare hands first. Like any good similar system Mathematica can be very helpful
- > to the professional mathematician. But I believe such gadgets can also do
- > irreparable harm unless used appropriately. I also believe children should not
- > be given calculators until they can do sums without them. But doubtless these
- > views will get me flamed...
- >
- Since flames were explicitly invited :-), I'll start the ball rolling.
-
- I believe that it is far more important to understand the meaning of
- the operations of arithmetic than to be able to work through the
- algorithms like trained monkeys without having a clue why they work.
- (I know some bright spark will ask how many monkeys I've trained to
- do long division - well, no actual monkeys, but a lot of great apes :-)).
-
- I would probably agree on something like Mathematica - but perhaps
- I'm being illogical in making a distinction.
-