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- Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
- Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 16:40:13 CDT
- From: <U53644@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Message-ID: <92209.164013U53644@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Why are Some Journals so Expensive?
- References: <1992Jul17.180158.20925@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
- <hdev.711479188@galaxy> <1992Jul20.140042.8279@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu>
- <1992Jul23.004719.29335@src.umd.edu>
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- I'm not sure if this entirely explains the high cost of some journals (did I
- really see one going for over $1000/yr. on the AMS subscription list ?), but
- one does have to accept that prices are going to be rather high. Remember,
- these aren't being put out using desk top publishing - people seem to want
- higher production quality than is available that way. It takes a lot of high
- priced labor to set up for the printing of an issue (editing, typesetting, etc.
- ), there aren't going to be that many issues sold (Math has a small community,
- even compared to the other sciences, and most of us would photocopy the
- articles we needed even if the journals weren't overpriced.), and costs have to
- be recovered. Also, while there has been some semi-sneering about the need for
- the company to make a profit - that profit is where management's income comes
- from. You really can't ask them to work without pay, can you ? Also, it would
- seem a little unfair to expect the stockholders to make do without dividends -
- they did undertake some financial risk when they bought their stock in the
- first place (and without stock purchases, companies will have more trouble
- locating the capital needed to expand - killing new publishers, and preventing
- old ones from increasing the number of publications (books included) that they
- put out. End result - less to read. Longer publication times.)
-
- So, frustrating as it is, we are going to have to live with higher publication
- prices. If a cheaper way to disseminate research results is desired, either
- electronic media (databases accesible by e-mail, etc) or desktop publishing
- will be necessary. The former seems to be of limited acceptability
- (understandably - CRT screens aren't very relaxing to read. Perhaps if the
- pixel size was reduced, making for crisper images on the screen, and we used
- black letters on a white background (liquid crystal display ?), this problem
- would be partially alleviated. Blue on white ? Isn't that supposed to be even
- easier on the eyes ?). The latter could be done by any one of you at home -
- you just need a PC, a printer, the right software (available commercially),
- and paper.
-
- The proposed boycott, though, would be an exercise in futility. The community
- would find itself with less reading material at the end of it, and nothing else
- would change. To have economic leverage, a community has to have a lot of
- spending power, taken collectively, and the Math community simply hasn't that
- sort of leverage.
-
- Joseph B. Dunphy
-
- "You (expletitive deleted) trotskyite yuppie !"
- (recent flame). Is that someone who wants to
- distribute BMW's to the masses ?
-
-
- e-mail responses not welcome : anything that you aren't willing to say in
- public here is best left unsaid.
-
- I refuse to participate in any Socialism vs. Capitalism debates, and will
- ignore all commentary along those lines.
-
-