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- From: fc03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Frederick W. Chapman)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Group Theory Question
- Message-ID: <1992Jul24.175434.28408@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
- Date: 24 Jul 92 17:54:34 GMT
- Organization: Lehigh University
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- In article <36049@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, dmassey@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Daniel
- Massey) writes:
-
- >Hi,
- >I'm reviewing algebra and have gotten stuck on the following
- >seemingly simple question:
- >
- >G is an abelian group and H a subgroup of G. Prove their exists
- >a subgroup of G which is iso. to G/H.
- >
- >Anyway, I'm not making any progress on this one so any suggestions
- >would be greatly appreciated.
- >Thanks,
- >Dan Massey
-
-
- That's because the statement is... FALSE! Take G to be the additive group
- of the integers Z, and take H to be the subgroup of even integers 2Z. Then
- G/H = Z/2Z, which is isomorphic to C_2, the cylic group of order 2. Z/2Z
- contains an element of order 2, namely 1+2Z, but Z contains no elements of
- order 2 (every non-zero element of Z has infinite order).
-
- I believe the proposition may be true for FINITE abelian groups. I think
- that an easy proof should follow from the fundamental theorem for finite
- abelian groups (though perhaps that is overkill). Start by showing that
- the proposition is true for cyclic groups of prime power order, and then
- use the fundamental theorem for finite abelian groups in conjunction with
- the fact that (G_1 (+) ... (+) G_n) / (H_1 (+) ... (+) H_n) is isomorphic
- to (G_1/H_1) (+) ... (+) (G_n/H_n) if H_i is a normal subgroup of G_i for
- each i; replace the G_i/H_i's by subgroups J_i's of the G_i's (by the
- result for cyclic groups of prime power order), and you are done! The only
- other part necessary is to show that a subgroup H must have the structure
- described above (i.e., that the H_i's are subgroups of the G_i's).
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