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- From: rose@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (Kermit Rose)
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- Subject: Re: Stupid question about FLT
- Message-ID: <1992Jul17.140010.6883@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 22:34:03 GMT
- References: <1992Jul17.023246.7915@galois.mit.edu>
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- In article <1992Jul17.023246.7915@galois.mit.edu>, tycchow@riesz.mit.edu (Timothy Y. Chow) writes...
- >I have a really stupid question for which I will undoubtedly be flamed, but
- >here goes anyway.
- >
- >Assume ZFC is consistent. If Fermat's Last Theorem is undecidable then
- >it is true, right?
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- I do not know if this is true or not. Suppose FLT is false, but with only
- a finite number of counter examples. Suppose that the smallest
- counterexample is so large that it is not possible in practice to discover
- it. Perhaps FLT is decidable in principle, but not computable within the
- lifetime of humanity. Do we say that FLT is undecidable?
-
- So, if we define undecidable to mean that there ARE NO COUNTEREXAMPLES,
- and THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE the theorem, then I would agree that
- undecidable implies true.
-
- >So if someone tomorrow produces a proof that FLT is
- >undecidable, then FLT itself will be a corollary. In other words the
- >person will have proved FLT. However, his proof will not be translatable
- >into ZFC, for if it were, FLT would be decidable. So our hypothetical
- >genius will not only have proved FLT, but will also have found a method
- >of proof that is beyond the capabilities of ZFC. So my question is, is
- >what I have just said correct?
-
- I do not see any flaw your reasoning. However, it suggests that the proof that
- FLT is undecidable is impossible.
-
- >--
- >Tim Chow tycchow@math.mit.edu
- >Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs
- >30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh
- >only 1 1/2 tons. ---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
-
-
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