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- From: mccolm@darwin.math.usf.edu. (Gregory McColm)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: library cutbacks
- Message-ID: <1992Jul17.212740.16594@ariel.ec.usf.edu>
- Date: 17 Jul 92 21:27:40 GMT
- References: <ARA.92Jul13184912@camelot.ai.mit.edu> <Jul.14.03.38.05.1992.27933@remus.rutgers.edu>
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- In article <Jul.14.03.38.05.1992.27933@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
- >In article <ARA.92Jul13184912@camelot.ai.mit.edu>, Allan Adler writes:
- >
- >> I have just learned that the library at the University of Rhode Island
- >> has told the math department to come up with $3000 of journal
- >> subscriptions that the library should discontinue, and that if this is
- >> not done, the library will make its own selection.
- >
- >This is truely sad. Don't they realize how little $3000 is compared
- >to the budget of any university, how much good that $3000 could
- >accomplish? The amount of waste per year at URI must be *at least*
- >a thousand times that.
- >--
- >Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ 08807-2618
- >
-
- visited UC Davis and UC Berkeley recently, and I noticed that
- a number of journals (including a few major ones) had disappeared.
- My own university (University of South Florida) purchased no books
- during the last academic year, and anticipates a 20-25 % journal
- cut this year. Part of the problem is the outrageous prices for
- books (eg, $ 100 for a 600-page book of photocopy, published, of
- course, by Elsevier) and journals (in my field, Notre Dame J of
- Formal Logic is $ 45 per year, J Symbolic Logic $ 180, Annals of
- Pure and Applied Logic about $ 1000---the fact that the first two
- journals are non-profit and the third put out by Elsevier is
- obviously relevant). Another problem is the indifference of
- university administration to the libraries---witness UCDavis's
- recent decision to store most old books (>15 years or so) in
- warehouses of varying accessibility. A third problem is the
- financial problems of the universities.
-
- I have heard proposals like "we should boycott the publishers",
- or "we should set up cheap non-profit electronic journals", or
- "we should cut salaries of administrators". A few antisocial
- types have suggested that mathematicians (and academics in general)
- publish too much stuff that no one reads, and ought to cut back
- (lies! never!). One librarian I know told me that when she went
- to a conference, a session by publishers featured executives
- gloating about their profits.
-
- Comments?
-
- -----Greg McColm
-
- QUOTE FOR THE DAY: Now, Barabbas was a publisher ... .
-