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- From: lcjst2+@pitt.edu (Lester C Jacobson)
- Newsgroups: sci.lang
- Subject: Re: English and its Mutilation
- Message-ID: <3904@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 00:13:26 GMT
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- In article <9207282034.AA09794@nms.netman> kartik@hls.com (Kartik Chandrasekhar) writes:
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > Considering the above I was disturbed to see how the language
- >is used here in the USA. I am in full agreement with the idea of
- >American English with colour spelt as color or rumour spelt
- >as rumor. Hmm.. maybe it makes more sense. What I have really come to
- >despise are expressions such as:
- >
- >"I did not get the invite."
- >"Dont do drugs." (Seen on billboards all over the country.)
- >"Why Bush cannot be beat". (Instead of .... cannot be beaten).
- >
- >There is a lot of difference between the British or Indian Newspapers
- >who use chaste English and the US newspapers who are careless and
- >irresponsible. They have to realize that it is through thier colomns
- >that a language flourishes in todays world and they should not butcher
- >the language. The editorial should also provide the everyday lesson in
- >English to the people.
- >
-
- I believe that you might find the relevant facts addressed by Chaucer:
-
- Ye know eek, that in forme of speech is chaunge
- Within a thousand year; and wordes tho
- That hadden price, now wonder nice and straunge.
- Us thinketh hem. And yet they spake hem so.
-
- Now there's some *real* chaste English :-) It would seem that one person's
- linguistic progress (i.e. natural historical development, divergence of
- dialects, etc.) is another's corruption. One might be able to halt
- linguistic change for a time, at least in the standard or "literary"
- language, but it is inevitable at some time -- unless we want to
- end up with a delightfully archaic standard tongue which would be highly
- removed from spoken usage.
-
- Kurt Vonnegut has a line in one of his short stories suggesting the
- reason American schools are so bad is that every student is made to feel
- like an idiot unless he or she speaks like English Victorian nobility.
- I wonder if there isn't some truth in that. Back in my undergraduate days
- I was the sole liberal arts major in a dormitory wing full of engineers.
- Consequently they often came to me for help in writing papers. I found
- during our informal interaction that their writing wasn't *so* bad,
- but that they often changed their work to reflect how they thought
- they were supposed to write. I think we have enough problems writing in
- a contemporary style -- to attempt to write in the style of a
- nineteenth-century English schoolmaster is hopeless.
-
- BTW, it's truly a pity that English lost that impersonal construction. It
- would be wonderful to revive it, methinks.
-
- --jake lcjst2@unix.cis.pitt.edu
-