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- From: blagdon@engin.umich.edu (Kenneth James Clark )
- Subject: Re: Is car pooling for real? (was Re: Are bikes really less polluting?)
- Message-ID: <q#S-HsA@engin.umich.edu>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:56:20 EDT
- Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
- References: <JMC.92Jul22195412@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
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- In article <JMC.92Jul22195412@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >
- >I have no objection to allowing people to work odd hours if they want to.
- >I have done it whenever I have not had family responsibilities. However,
- >I believe that at present the number of people who work odd hours is
- >larger than the number who want to - even with night shift premiums.
-
- You believe. Yes John, we know you believe. Do you have any evidence
- that your belief is based in fact?
-
- >Some of the proposals I have seen on these newsgroups are not at all
- >voluntary. In order to even out traffic they would compel people to
- >work odd hours. Let me point out that any manufacturing business that
- >wants its employees to have shorter commutes can work odd hours if it
- >wants to. I believe that the reason they don't is that the employees
- >prefer the longer commutes to working odd hours.
-
- The current system has many facets that are not at all voluntary. Just
- like now, anyone who doesn't like the work hours can quit. That's their
- only option now, isn't it? You believe again. Do you have any evidence
- that manufacturers are listening to their employees and not their bottom
- line? Why are there so many flex-time and modified work-week arrangements
- if they're so unpopular? Is everything and everybody coercive?
-
- >Utopians are almost always coercive.
-
- So is the current system and the social engineers who put it into place.
-
- Ken
-