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  1. Newsgroups: sci.econ
  2. Path: sparky!uunet!wupost!udel!genie!starr
  3. From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
  4. Subject: Re: Property in Prehistory
  5. Message-ID: <1992Jul31.044517.19794@genie.slhs.udel.edu>
  6. Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
  7. References: <22488@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> <1992Jul29.185352.25475@clipper.ingr.com> <JTURNER.92Jul30071717@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>
  8. Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:45:17 GMT
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  11. In article <JTURNER.92Jul30071717@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu> jturner@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Jeffrey Turner) writes:
  12. }    Marx never equated capitalism with property ownership,
  13. }unless you narrowly define property as the means of production
  14. }(capital).  In which case, property (capital) ownership must
  15. }have arisen after humans took up agrarian living (10-15K yrs
  16. }ago, recent in the scope of 1 million years) because hunter-
  17. }gatherers could not have owned the means of production (i.e.
  18. }that which was hunted or gathered).
  19.  
  20. I understand that economists of the Austrian school do make this equation.
  21. However, hunter-gatherers in the sense that you speak of would be relying on
  22. what they term general conditions of human welfare, not capital.
  23.  
  24. Furthermore, even hunter-gatherers had private property, which is clear once
  25. you realize that this means not only land, but things like spears, arrows,
  26. bows, baskets, canoes, paddles, etc.
  27.  
  28.  
  29. Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
  30.  
  31. "True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
  32. oneself and others." - Voltaire
  33.