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- From: hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu (Brent Hutto)
- Subject: Re: Crystals AM & FM
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.165042.19769@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu>
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- Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
- References: <1992Jul23.115921.4298@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:50:42 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul23.115921.4298@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, bobwo@ecs.comm.mot.com (Bob Woodhouse) writes:
- >Hello,
- >
- >I have ofeten seen advertisements for pairs of radio crystals in R/C
- >magazines where crystals marketed for AM radios sell for about $10
- >a pair and those marketed for FM radios sell for about $20 a pair,
- >all in the same ad. Maybe the crystals really are different, but I
- >really doubt it. In all the time I have played with crystals, a
- >crystal was pretty much a crystal, and maybe something like closeness
- >of actual frequency to nominal frequency or stability over temperature
- >changes could be real differences among various crystals. It seems
- >far more likely that some marketeer decided that people with FM radios
- >are probably serious enough about their hobby that they will spend more
- >money. Who knows, maybe I am forgetting some crystal property that would
- >make some kind of crystal more suitable for AM and another crystal type
- >more suitable for FM. Any thoughts on the matter could be of interest.
- >
- >Bob "gee, am I gonna have to ask where all the r/c car posts are in order
- > to stimulate r/c car posts" Woodhouse
-
- I think the *reason* for the price difference is as you said,
- it's what the market will bear. The only "quality" difference
- is that you have to modulate the frequency of the FM transmit
- crystal, but not the AM one, but I don't think that matters.
- The only "economic" difference is that they sell a heck of a
- lot more AM crystals than FM ones, so maybe there's an economy
- of scale.
-
- The reason you can't use AM and FM crystals interchangably is
- that many modern FM receivers are dual conversion with a 1st
- IF of 10.7MHz (maybe it's 9MHz, who cares). Therefore an FM
- dual-conversion receiver crystal will be on a different LO
- frequency than an AM single-conversion (455KHz IF) receiver
- crystal. Boy, I can still talk that hardware talk after all
- these years in the computer business. Must be some brain
- cells still alive after all :-)
-
- Then again, I think even the FM car receivers are still
- single-conversion, so this may all be spurious (more RF talk,
- eh?). One other possibility is that they may use a lower
- frequency crystal in the transmitter, modulate it just a
- little bit and then multiply up to the transmit frequency.
- I've never looked that closely into my transmitter module.
-
- -------------------------------
- Brent Hutto
- hutto@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
-