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- From: sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers
- Subject: Re: Compressors & Air Tools
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.152427.23374@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
- Date: 30 Jul 92 15:24:27 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul30.012019.18930@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
- >sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard) writes:
- >: >
- >: >What rating did the cord have and how long was it? 120V @ 15A would probably
- >: >require at least 12ga and <=25 ft. Maybe even a 10 ga to be sure.
- >:
- >: Where did you get that number? NEC only requires #14 for 15A, for any distance
- >: (until voltage drop becomes an issue). He's probably got much more than 25 ft
- >: of #14 (maybe #12 if it's a 20A circuit or the builders were generous) before
- >: it even gets to the outlet.
- >
- >When you are running near max capacity, then voltage drop becomes a large
- >issue. This is the case when you are running a 2 HP motor on a 15 or 20
- >amp circuit.
-
- Read my post carefully. If it's a 15A circuit (ie the breaker/fuse in the
- panel is rated at 15A) he's probably got much more than 25 feet of #14 wires
- inside the wall from the panel to the outlet. Although the increased size of
- wire in the extension cord will help, there will still be a significant voltage
- drop (if that is really the problem) because of the wire inside the wall.
-
- Assume he has a 1600 sq. ft house, in a 40'x40' square (just for some round
- numbers). If the outlet and panel are at opposite corners and you allow 2 ft
- (too small) to go from the panel or outlet to a straight run between the two
- you get a wire length of 2+2+40*sq.rt(2) ~= 60' of #14 inside the walls. If
- it can deal with that, it can deal with a few more tens of feet of extension
- cord of #14 without that much more voltage drop (unless the motor's has a
- minimum voltage drop to which it is sensitve, which I doubt - it's probably
- a gradual thing).
-
- Besides, if you look at the NEC table for required wire size as a function of
- current (I forget the number) you will see that the require wire size for a 15A
- circuit is actually smaller than #14 in the table (sorry, I can't be more
- specific - I don't have the table with me). However, there is a footnote
- saying that 15A circuits are always required to have at least #14 and 20A
- circuits are always required to have at least #12 (I'm not sure of the reason
- for this). A wire size acceptable to the NEC for a 15A or 20A home circuit
- already has a larger "safety factor" than other sizes of wire.
-
- >I think 10 ga wire would be overdoing it, but 12 ga would certainly be a
- >good idea, even for a short 25 ft run.
-
- I agree. It's why I always use #12 for any circuit not greater than 20A when
- I'm running new wires. However, I doubt that it will help him that much.
-
- >I am slowly replacing all my extension cords with ones containing 12 g
- >conductors. I am tired of having compressors that will not start because
- >the voltage drop is too high.
-
- Are you also replacing all the wiring inside the walls of your house? Or do
- you already have 20A circuits everywhere?
-