home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
- Path: sparky!uunet!decwrl!deccrl!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!linus!alliant!merk!spdcc!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu!knight
- From: knight@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Knight of the Living Dead)
- Subject: Re: I wonder, did AT&T backstab BSDI?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul29.212918.8984@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
- Summary: Some clarifications on previous post
- Keywords: AT&T speculation lawsuit BSDI
- Sender: Eric Knight <knight@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
- Organization: /etc/organization
- References: <1992Jul28.153750.8395@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1992Jul29.144859.8222@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> <1992Jul29.174437.18606@gateway.novell.com>
- Distribution: World
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:29:18 GMT
- Lines: 50
-
- > The only problem with this idea is that SYSVr4 (NOT System 5, that was
- > another Unix way back) doesn't look like BSD, it still looks like SYSV to
- > the normal user, ie you have horrid syntax for the ps utility where you need
- > to use a hyphen in front of the arguments and the devices... yuck!
- [Stuff Deleted]
- > Steve
- > --
- > Addresses:-
- > JANET:- ucacmsu@uk.ac.ucl or steve@uk.ac.ox.earth (preferable)
- > Internet:- ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk or steve@earth.ox.ac.uk (preferable)
-
- Being a frequent System 5 (SYSV) user, I can't help but notice that
- V = roman numeral 5. Therefore, I always figured Sys5 and SysV were
- interchangable. If you are thinking of "Revision 7" I believe it is,
- which is also Minix level U**X compatibility, I believe thats the outdated
- program your referring to.
-
- There was another message about my "MACH" comment which I'm not in
- a position to load in and edit at this time, but it comments that NeXT
- paid thier dues to AT&T and thereby were immune.
-
- If I were attempting to be rude about source code and licenses (which
- AT&T is doing) and I were about to grab all the software from the BSD
- tape and claim it were my own (which AT&T is doing), if I won I'd point
- out to everyone who used the BSD code (I believe that means most, if not
- all u**x and several offshoots such as Primos) that the software which
- is being licensed by AT&T >DIDN'T< include the "rogue" BSDI software,
- which they now own all the rights to, and then they warm up the deathstar
- for another round of licensing fees or worse, demanding the BSDI software
- be removed from other U**X like software.
-
- If anyone thinks AT&T will be buddy buddy with Sun, IBM, or NeXT,
- let it be known they backstabbed BSDI -- so they should consider themselves
- warned.
-
- Basically, this could be a war against all **IX software, commercial
- or otherwise. They are literally attacking the weakest link in the
- chain of people who develope un*x code, and also possibly the most
- influential on other developements.
-
- On the bright side, BSDI should demand all the "trade secrets"
- be explained in court, that way they become public knowledge so that
- other people like GNU can produce code which can keep the Freedom
- alive.
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- These opinions are mine, don't call my boss or employer or anyone else,
- they will just be annoyed and can't give you answers -- Eric Knight
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-