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- From: seamans@nlm.nih.gov (James R. Seamans)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
- Subject: Sun Floating License for compilers
- Keywords: compiler
- Message-ID: <1992Jul31.143723.4738@nlm.nih.gov>
- Date: 31 Jul 92 14:37:23 GMT
- Sender: usenet@nlm.nih.gov (usenet news poster)
- Reply-To: seamans@nlm.nih.gov
- Organization: National Library of Medicine
- Lines: 98
-
- Not really sure where to post this but....
-
-
- Well, I think it is about time to start a war....
-
- I have recently received our SunPro Professional C 2.0 which includes
- the SparcWorks Tools. These tools are to be used with the coming
- Solaris 2.0 Operating System, when ever. Included in the package was
- the C compiler with sbrowser for SunOS 4.1.x.
-
-
- The problem I'm having, is when I read how the Floating Licensing Server
- is to work under Solaris 2.0.
-
-
- I quote from "Installing on Solaris 2.0 SPARCworks and SPARCcompiler,
- Part No. 800-7333-10 Revision A, July 1992."
-
- page 29
-
- "SPARCCompiler and SPARCworks programs use network-based floating
- (also called concurrent usage) licenses, so that you may not need
- to purchase a license for every individual user. When a user
- invokes a compiler or tool, a license, if one is available, is
- automatically checked out."
-
-
- I'm happy with that statement, we are a small development group of 2 to 8
- people who might use the development tools and compiler once a week. I
- would probably be using it on a daily basis. To give you an idea of usage,
- no one has used the compiler for two weeks. So this floating license is a
- real help to us to cut cost in this branch. There are many groups of this
- type in our building who would have a license for their branch.
-
- I now quote from "Licensing White Paper, SunPro, July 28, 1992"
-
- Question:
-
- "With previous releases of your products, I needed to license each
- potential user, regardless of whether or not the software was used
- from a single server or had little simultaneous use. How does the new
- release differ?"
-
- Answer:
-
- "SunPro's new product releases incorporating network licensing
- provide cost saving flexibilty because now you only need licenses
- for the maximum number of simultaneous user. However, you should
- expect to need a full license for each full-time developer.
- Infrequent users may be adequately supported by sharing licenses."
-
- Yeah, Great!!!
-
- Question:
-
- "After I quit using s SPARCompiler or SPARCworks, how quickly are my
- licenses available for use by another user?"
-
- Answer:
-
- "For SPARCompilers, the time is 15 minutes. The 15 minute linger
- prevents you from losing access to the compiler in the middle of a
- build because the compiler is invoked multiple times over multiple
- files in creating your executable. For SPARCworks, the license is
- available immediately after you have quit the last tool. Therefore,
- in a eight-hour day as many as 32 users could access a single license
- of a SPARCompiler -- making the license of the infrequently used
- product very cost effective."
-
-
-
- "HI Boys And Girls Can You Say IBM".
-
- The 15 minute linger is unecessary and a hindrance to the use of the
- compiler and development of programs. There is no mention of the orginal
- user being able to re-use the compiler after he releases. Does this mean
- that the linger time is forced on all users of the compiler? Think very
- carefully about this -- you use the compiler for 26 seconds. It is now
- locked out for everyone for the next 15 minutes. If the original user can
- re-use the compiler in this 15 minute period, then the queue of other users
- can be longer than anticipated until the 15 minute value has been satisfied.
-
- This idle time should be adjustable by the adminstrator to efficiently
- manage the usage of the comiler. It should not be dictated by SunPro or any
- other provider. Come on Sun this needs to be changed.
-
- This is a very silly game Sun is playing and smells as if the upper
- management of Sun just moved over from IBM.
-
- I believe we will be looking for other vendors to supply out compiler needs.
-
-
- Disclaimer applies - I speak for myself and represent myself...etc....
-
- Jim Seamans seamans@nlm.nih.gov
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