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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 28 Jul 92       Volume 10 : Issue 181

Today's Topics:

      [*] NetRisk 1.0
      AMAX-II Mac Emulator for Amiga [comment]
      animal husbandry program
      Appletalk Remote Access Modem Scripts (Q)
      Best portable backup solution for the MAC (Q)
      Capturing press wires (A)
      DeskWriter Problems (R)
      Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (Q)
      Flash-it answers to my question
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #180 (3 msgs)
      Internation keyboard additions (Q)
      Internet connections (2 msgs)
      Invisible text
      Low-Cost Mac for Chemistry student
      Mac Plus Accelerators (Q)
      Mac Portable memory expansion: where to get it?
      Math fonts (C: follow-up)
      Memory usage "bug"
      Messages "out of order" (C & A)
      Mirror (was Misleading Mac Adverts) (C) (2 msgs)
      Mirror drives
      Norton/SUM and Disk Doubler
      October Surprise
      Packages for writing portable graphic user interfaces
      Pirates
      PowerBook 110?
      Problems with Postscript Files
      RE- Generic HD Icon
      RE- Internet<->Commercial S
      RE- PB 110
      rebind caps_lock on PB170?
      RedEdit batch processing
      ResEdit Hack
      SAYETT DATASHOW HR/M Projection Pad (Q)
      scroll2 utility
      Serbian language font
      SLIP & Telnet 2.5 for VAX 8650 (Q)
      StartupScreen
      The needs of asses :-)
      Typing Tutor for Adults
      Zmodem to appdisk trashed my files!

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:29:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Roy Wood)
Subject: [*] NetRisk 1.0

Here comes a game that I've written.  The archive is in two parts and
includes the game and a brief documentation file.  Please place on the
archive site.

The game is called "NetRisk" and is a network version of a conquer-the-world
game.  The game allows up to six players to compete over an AppleTalk
network.  It does not simulate other players, so unless you have a network,
you might as well forget it.

-Roy Wood ([e-mail])


[Archived as /info-mac/game/netrisk-10.hqx; 69K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:02:08 +1000 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Philip FX Ryan)
Subject: AMAX-II Mac Emulator for Amiga [comment]

I have been having a look at a VERY GOOD Macintosh emulation, the AMAX-II
by Readysoft.

For those of you who don't know what this is, it is a hardware dongle which
plugs into the Amiga's disk drive port and has an Amiga disk drive port and
a Mac disk drive port off of it.

Inside this little box are two slots for Mac Plus ROMs, which are not
supplied by the company.

This emulator is not cheap ($A800 or something ridiculous, though I beleive
that it is cheaper in the USA..), and once you add the cost of buying some
Mac ROMs, can be quite expensive...

HOWEVER

It is a very good emulator. I have tested Word 4 & 5, Excel 3, IGOR (a
plotting program), MacDraw II, and a host of utilities.

Since I was interested, I downloaded 'speedometer' from the archives and
the results of testing the emulator are very interesting:

AMAX-II emulator (running on a 25 MHz Amiga 3000 with 10 MB RAM and 10 MB
Mac partition on a SCSI hard disk; with Math co-processor) : performance
ratio of 7.5 cf a Classic; FPU performance: 2.4 cf a Mac II.

Mac LC 2/40: 3.5 cf a Classic; no fpu

Mac IIx 32/140: 4.5 cf a classic; fpu: 1.4 cf a Mac II

In other words, the AMAX emulator on the Amiga is significantly faster
than a Mac II (and so probably an LC II, IIsi, even the SE/30).

According to the resident Amiga expert, this is probably because the Amiga
has the separate video processor (nb the Mac IIx tests above were virtually
no different with it in monochrome mode, which the AMAX emulator is
currently limited to; the AMAX monitor was bigger too: 750 x 550 or
something). Also note that the AMAX, since it was using Mac Plus ROMs, did
not recognize the Amiga 3000's cpu as a 68030, instead it thought that it
was a 68020 (according to the Speedometer program).

In the above numbers, I did do the complete Speedometer tests, but the
numbers basically agree with the simple 'performance ratio' tests that it
does first thing.

(Note #2, testing the LC with SoftwareFPU gave a FPU performance of 0.01 cf
a Mac II - i.e. for those of us without co-processors, who are doing
math-intensive stuff, an fpu would be a big improvement!)

SO.... is it STILL cheaper to get an Amiga and a Mac emulator, and still
end up with a faster *Mac*hine?

Last point for those of you who think that colour is very important: This
Mac-emulating Amiga was quite capable of PRINTING to a colour postscript
printer.

Phil Ryan * Mac Nut (and I _don't_ use Amigas, and think that the AmigaDOS is
really just a MacOS clone, however, it is a case of bang for the buck, and
the system that I have outlined is clearly faster (if speed is important)
than most Macs)
* proud owner of a Mac SE 4/0 and an LC 4/120 *

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:01:27 EDT
From: Seth Ness <[e-mail]>
Subject: animal husbandry program

hi,
does anyone know of any programs to keep track of mouse matings
and generations and phenotypes and genotypes for use in a laboratory?

--
 Seth L. Ness                        Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
 [e-mail]

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Date: 28 Jul 92 18:17:09 U
From: "bnhirsch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Appletalk Remote Access Modem Scripts (Q)

Hello,

I have a question about Appletalk remote access (ARA) modem scripts.  How can
I
modify the scripts or configure my modem, so I can shut the modem speaker off
at the receiving end?  The modem at the network end is a Magic (Zoom)
V32V42.bis -Turbo.  It has no external speaker control.  I have tried changing
the set up paramaters in the modem (ATM0&W0), but ARA resets everything when
the remote modem calls in.  I would also like to minimize all the hand shaking
and negotiations since only one kind of modem is calling.  Ideally I would
like
the remote modem to connect at 12,000 bps with compression and error
correction
and no speaker.

I heard there was a utility that made it possible to modify ARA scripts put
there.  Does anyone have a copy?

Thank you, David
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:35 EDT
From: Gordon Oppenheimer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Best portable backup solution for the MAC (Q)

Hello,

What is the best portable MAC backup system?  My goal is to have a system
where
I can go any machine on campus, attach the tape system, start the backup
software and wait for it to backup the system.

Cost, speed, and transportablity are the three major features I need.

Fancy software and large capacity are not needed.

Please send me your favorite MAC backup system and why.

Thanks,

Gordon

PS: If anyone knows of a solution that works for both the MAC and IBM, that
would be great!

 UNIX Lab Manager, Academic Computing Services, Fairfield University

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 19:19:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Capturing press wires (A)

David Tillinghast asked some time back (in Info-Mac 10-170, sorry, I've been
out of touch for a while because of a change of address) if someone knew
about a Mac-based AP capture system, or the specifications for one.

About a year ago I wrote a basic version of such a system in HyperCard,
which is capable of capturing Reuters and EFE (the Spanish newswire). Using
HyperCard 2.1, the stack runs in the background and has no problems receiving
at up to 1200 bps. It was great fun getting the news in real time during the
couple of months or so we had a parabolic antenna in the back yard...

Instead of saving the messages to disk, I decided to spool messages to a
Mainstay MarcoPolo database, which supports indexing, compression, multiuser
access across an AppleTalk network, and automatic notification of incoming
messages.

I'd be willing to send the stack to interested parties. Because it's written
in HyperCard, it's easy to modify. To receive another newswire, such as AP,
you would have to contact ANPA (I think that means American Newspapers and
Publishers Association) to get the format, and modify the HyperTalk code to
parse the message type. To save messages to disk instead of spooling to
MarcoPolo, you would also have to make a small modification to the stack. For
an experienced HyperCard programmer it should not be too difficult.

Now about that dinner, if you can find a way to get it to me here in Chile...

-- Thomas Fruin                            [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:55 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: DeskWriter Problems (R)

The grayscale printing is accessed by choosing the "Best" mode from the
DW 3.1 driver's dialog box.  Also, there are three methods of dithering
for grayscale--only the pattern and scatter really get much use.  The
pattern method is faster, but you occassionally get moire patterns.  The
scatter does a better job but takes longer and uses more memory.

As far as the hairlines are concerned, I believe that the minimum hairline
width for the DW is 1 point.  Don't quote my on this as my DW manuals are
in the office.

-Dwight

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:15 PDT
From: [e-mail] (George Wade)
Subject: Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (Q)

For some time I've been installing Kanji Talk on friends hard drives, with
Blesser or System Picker, to keep from conflicting with US systems on the same
drive.
    Now: the Kanji Talk Insallation Guide that comes with Ktalk 6.0.7.1
says - 'If you do not remove the US system, KTalk installer will try to update
it with Kanji Talk; however, the installation will be unsuccessful.'
    'Either remove the non-Japanese system folder, or install KTalk on a
separate drive and use the Startup Device Module in the Control Panel to
switch
between systems.'
    I have a practical choice:-

Copy US sys 6.0.7 on to discs - reboot from floppy - trash the US sys folder -
install KTalk onto the Hard Drive - Copy Blesser or sys Picker onto the same
drive - copy US sys 6.0.7 back onto the drive and Bless or Pick one system.

or - set up partitions - install systems into their own partitions - use the
Startup Device Module to switch between systems

Comments from users with multiple personalities welcomed.
.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:00:31 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Flash-it answers to my question

As a dozen or two people mentioned to me, show cursor in Flash-it
is done by checking a clearly marked box. I must have been tired
when I first tried it out but now it workds for me. Thanks to all
who replied.-Pete
Pete Tamas, [e-mail], Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:38 MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #180

I hate to waste bandwith on this, but I need an opinion and this
seemed to be the best place to go.

    I'm currently using a 3-year old Plus, 4/20, system 7 etc.  I'm
rapidly pushing the boundaries of it's usability.  I'd like to get a new
machine.  Here's the catch.  I can't go over $2000.........
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally I would Buy A Power Book 140 Its The Best Machine Dollar For Dollar
new.....But If Used Is your bag try finding a SE/30

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 08:30:35 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #180

I have written the address in MacWorld regarding the MacExpo
in Toronto and have received no response.

Can anyone out there tell me:
when is it?
where is it?
how much will it cost?

Yes, these are some of life's basic questions...

mike

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:06:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Joe Kazura)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #180

I need some practice making QT movies...

I have a IIfx and a VideoSpigot Pro...

Send me some suggestions... I will post what I make to the net...
I will also try to keep the file sizes to a minimum!!!

Joe Kazura
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:00:19 EST
From: "Terence R. Slywka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internation keyboard additions (Q)

In the current issue of Macworld there is an article about foreign language/
international keyboard additions that can be put into a system file.  These
additions are accessable through the control panel and allow the user to
change the characters the keyboard can produce.  It article seemed to
indicate that these are widely available.  If anyone knows where I can
find these additons, please contact me directly.  Thanks

Terence Slywka
Indiana University

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 23:32:21 -0400
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internet connections

In 10-180, Arnie Keller asks:

>Sorry if this is an FAQ, but which of the commercial services
>(eg Compuserve, Genie, etc) works best to send messages to Internet
>sites? Thanks in advance.

Currently, GEnie, Delphi, and Prodigy have no link to the Internet. AOL's
link is new; there have been a few problem reports, and there are limits on
size of mail sent and received. CompuServe and MCIMail have long
established links. In terms of which work best, they're all roughly
equivalent (as long as the AOL limits are followed). In terms of expense,
there's no single right choice--all three systems have varying pricing
plans. If you send only a little mail but want to receive large quantities
of files and subscribe to bitnet lists, the clear choice is
MCIMail--there's a basic charge of $35.00 per year for a mailbox, but no
charge at all to receive mail on that basic plan; access is free through an
800 number with no connect time charges. If you need to send files over the
net or have a modest amount of correspondence, I'd suggest CompuServe--the
$7.95 new basic monthly plan allow for $9.00 in e-mail costs. (But
CompuServe does charge to RECEIVE Internet mail, so it isn't a wise choice
for those who receive a lot of mail.) Finally, the AOL interface is very
convenient; you are charged only connect time, with no separate charges to
receive or transmit mail--but there is a limit of roughly 30k on mail sent
or received, and no files can be sent. (The IBM side of AOL restricts
members to mail no great than 8k in size!)

I use MCIMail to RECEIVE mail, and send it through any convenient SMTP
Internet mailer. When I'm having network trouble, I use AOL to send mail.
AppleLink also has an Internet link, but again charges vary with the plan
used. Many commercial services are popping up to offer access at really
nominal charges; if anyone wants information on Personal Internet Access
through dial-up, I've got a file handy that gives current rates and more
information which I'll be glad to send privately on request. (I grabbed it
>From Usenet a few weeks ago; I don't know where it can be ftp'ed.)
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:33:15 PDT
From: Arnie Keller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internet Connections

I asked people for information on connecting the Internet with commercial
online services. Here' a summary of the responses:

MCIMail has a basic charge of $10/month (with a one time $30 setup fee), You
can dial an 800 number to connect with no connect charges. This basic service
lets you send something like 30 messages a month before incurring charges,
but, best of all, there is no charge or limit on incoming Internet messages.
If you send only a little mail but want to receive large quantities of files
and subscribe to bitnet lists, the clear choice seems to be MCIMail.

AOL's link is new; there have been a few problem reports, and there are limits
on size of mail sent and received. The AOL interface is very convenient,
however. You are charged only connect time, with no separate charges to
receive or transmit mail--but there is a limit of roughly 30k on mail sent or
received, and no files can be sent. The IBM side of AOL restricts members to
mail no great than 8k in size!

With Compuserve; you merely have to address it to >Internet: username@node. If
you need to send files over the net or have a modest amount of correspondence,
CompuServe's deal is good--the $7.95 new basic monthly plan allows for $9.00
in e-mail costs. (But CompuServe does charge to RECEIVE Internet mail, so it
isn't a wise choice for those who receive a lot of mail.)


Jeff Needleman adds: I use MCIMail to RECEIVE mail, and send it through any
convenient SMTP Internet mailer. When I'm having network trouble, I use AOL to
send mail. AppleLink also has an Internet link, but again charges vary with
the plan used. Many commercial services are popping up to offer access at
really nominal charges; if anyone wants information on Personal Internet
Access through dial-up, I've got a file handy that gives current rates and
more information which I'll be glad to send privately on request. (I grabbed
it from Usenet a few weeks ago; I don't know where it can be ftp'ed.) Jeff
Needleman <[e-mail]>

Finlly, GEnie, Delphi, and Prodigy have no current link to the Internet.

Thanks to Dwight Lemke, Jeff Needleman, Tim Rushing, and Chris Webster. The
net continues to amaze with its store of expert knowledge and good will.

Arnie Keller
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:10:16 CDT
From: Chris Obyrne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Invisible text

Thank you to all that helped on the problem of invisible text at such sites as
wuarchive.wustle.edu. Putting a hypen (-) in front of my password does the
trick.
Thanks again,

Chris O'Byrne
Raisio Inc.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:31:06 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Low-Cost Mac for Chemistry student

On Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:10:37 -0400 (EDT) you said:
>I'm currently using a 3-year old Plus, 4/20, system 7 etc.  I'm
>rapidly pushing the boundaries of it's usability.  I'd like to get a new
>machine.  Here's the catch.  I can't go over $2000.

You should be pleased with the new educational prices as of August
first.  You can get an LC II 5/80 for just under $1,200.  Computer Town
[phone] will sell you a 14 inch Sony Trinitron Monitor + LC cable
for $414.  That leaves you enough for a LC FPU ($127) and Supra 2400 bps
Modem + cable ($103).  Surely you can find a dealer in the Pittsburgh
area that can match Computer Town's (Mass & New Hampshire) prices (I
just happened to have one of their catalogs handy and have a friend
contemplating a similar system).

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:28:36 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac Plus Accelerators (Q)

Greetings, netters.  I'm hoping for some more good advice like I've
gotten from you folks in the past.

We have a Mac Plus, 4mgs RAM, two external HDs (a 20 and a 52), running
system 7.0 with tuneup 1.1.1.  We're interested in purchasing an acceler-
ator for this machine.  One brand that's been mentioned is the Brain
Storm Accelerator.  Has anyone used this thing?  Good/bad comments?
Are there other brands that someone out there would like to recommend?
Or comments about accelerated Pluses in general?

All input gratefully received.  Feel free to reply directly to me if you
think this wouldn't be of great general interest.  If anyone would like,
I'll be happy to post a summary.  (This is cross-posted to Mac-L and
Info-mac, so apologies to folks who may see it twice.)  TIA for any advice.

Pat Ullmann  [e-mail] or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:45:38 +0100
From: Reinder Verlinde <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Portable memory expansion: where to get it?

 I am trying to find a place to buy a memory expansion for the original
non-backlit Macintosh Portable (the original 'Dinosaur', not a Powerbook).
 Most 'modern' magazines do not list prices for these, so I don't even know
whether they can still be obtained somewhere. If anybody can point out a
place where such an expansion can be bought cheaply (I already know that the
static RAM this machine eats is expensive) I would be very pleased.
 Please reply directly to me since I don't think this will be of enough
interest to the net...

Reinder Verlinde

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:08:24 PDT
From: [e-mail] ( John Thoo )
Subject: Math fonts (C: follow-up)

Greetings, all!

On Sat, 25 Jul 92 22:00:25 PDT I posted:
% I've been away from the digest for a couple+ weeks, so I don't know if
% anyone has already mentioned this, but I will anyway---Adobe's Mathematical
% Pi (#158 Linotype-Hell AG $275) is a collection of six math font families
% that I've been eyeing for quite a while now.
% Among various symbols, Mathematical Pi also has Greek, German (AMS Euler
% fraktur), blackboard bold, and the AMS-style fancy script fonts.  Well, at
% least that's what I've gathered from Adobe's _Font & Function_ magazine.
%
% Just thought I'd throw in another alternative.  :-)

I would like to add that I noticed from a Mac's Place catalog I just
received that they carry Adobe's Mathematical Pi (#158) for just $176.
This is comparable to Y&Y's educational price for its Lucida     ^^^^
font family which, according to Graeme <[e-mail]>
(infomacv10-178.txt), ``With academic discount, the package [Y&Y Lucida]
is about $170.''

Anyhow, I just thought I'd point this out since I'd originally listed
Adobe's *list price* for its Mathematical Pi font family.

Hope this helps someone.

--John.
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92  19:41 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Memory usage "bug"

I wonder if anyone else can duplicate this problem I am experiencing with
my LC.
What I am finding is that while my System heap is correctly displayed in the
"About this Macintosh" box, the amount of memory actually being used by
the System software is sometimes incorrectly displayed as a figure much
smaller than the heap size.  After quite a bit of frustration and detective
work, I tracked the cause down to...my Startupscreen, a 16-bit work
downloaded from Sumex.  If my Startupscreen has been drawn, Balloon Help
claims that my System software is only using 1 Mb out of the 1.9 Mb or so
reserved for it.  If I rename the Startupscreen and restart, the figure
becomes 1.8 out of 1.9 Mb, which is much more sensible.
Well, I hear you cry, couldn't it be a rogue INIT which is screwing up
the memory calculations at startup?  The weird thing is that if I do an
Extensions Off restart, the problem gets worse!  If the Startupscreen is
renamed and not drawn, I get a sensible 1.1 Mb in use out of 1.2 reserved.
If the Startupscreen has been drawn, Balloon Help says the System software
is using -900k (yes, minus!!!) out of 1.2 Mb reserved for it, and the memory
usage thermometer sticks out towards the LEFT of the window until it covers
the little Mac icon at the left-hand edge (reflecting the "negative" memory
usage, of course).
This is basically a benign little bug, because the System heap and the
largest unused block of memory are reported correctly, so the System knows
how much is really available to applications.  Anyway, if somebody could
sort this out I'd be much obliged.  For the record, I have an LC running
7.0.1 and Tune-Up v1.1.1; it has 6 Mb of RAM, a maths coprocessor and
additional VRAM.  No, reinstalling the System did not help either as I did
that last night to no avail!  I have tried the same Startupscreen on a
friend's IIci running 7.0 and Tune-Up 1.0 - no memory miscalculations were
seen at all...

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:06:37 EDT
From: [e-mail] (N. J. Taber)
Subject: Messages "out of order" (C & A)

Have you noticed that your recent message in Info-Mac Digest has been
relegated to the end of the issue, rather than appearing with the others
in alphabetical order by subject?  Have you noticed that your message's
subject is not listed in the topic list at the beginning of the issue?

I've noticed such "orphan" messages frequently in recent digests and sent
a note to the moderator inquiring about them.  His reply indicated that
these messages were received without a subject line in the expected
location, and so end up at the end of the issue.

Now you may say:  "So they're at the end - what's the big deal?"  The
semi-big deal (at least for anyone with an interest in those messages'
topics) is that messages without subject lines are inaccessible at some
sites.  For example, there is software here (over which I have no control)
that receives digests, breaking them up into individual messages and
preparing a menu that permits access to individual messages without
requiring the reader to scan the entire digest.  But this program
apparently builds the menu of messages from the subject lines.  No subject
line, no way to request that message!  Consequently, only readers
requesting the entire digest for viewing ever see those messages without
subject lines.  In addition, the available search routines for the digests
only look at the subject lines - so again, no subject line, no way to find
that message.

So, what can you do about this?  First, look to see whether your article
in the digest appears in its expected place in the alphabetical listing by
subject.  If not, its subject line may not be arriving properly.  I'd
suggest checking your message carefully before sending it and asking your
site gurus about the functioning of your message-sending software.  If
there's no way to fix it, you may have to resign yourself to a more
limited audience for your messages!

N. J. Taber
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:31:43 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mirror (was Misleading Mac Adverts) (C)

On Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:34:25 EDT you said:
>> Mirrors is hopelessly slow and has a regrettable tendency to crash file
>> transfers :-(
>
>Could you expand on the details of when it causes these crashes?  I.E.  what
>are Mirror's settings and what type of transfer process?

Mac Tools 2.0 (earlier versions didn't cause the problem).  Set Mirrors
for 3 or 4 hour intervals (in spite of 54 extensions and cdevs I
frequently don't restart for 3 to 5 days at time--I find claims that
System 6 is more stable than 7 amusing <to be kind>--so just using
Mirrors on startups or shutdowns doesn't really cover things).

I've got two 80 MByte volumes to save information for.  Every time
Mirrors fires up it takes 90 seconds or more (Norton 2.0's File Saver
takes about 20 seconds).  Kermit, XModem, and ZModem have all lost track
of packets and gotten hopelessly muddled (not every time, but often
enough, that I'm not going to continue putting up with it).  Norton's
File Saver works as well (as nearly as I can tell; I haven't had a
disaster that would require either product) and doesn't take forever.
Shoot Mirrors is a nuisance even if I'm not transferring a file if it
happens to kick in just as I'm trying to start doing something (it seems
to have a malicious knack of deciding I'm not doing anything just about
the time I decide to do something :)

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:10:42 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: Mirror (was Misleading Mac Adverts) (C)

> >> Mirrors is hopelessly slow and has a regrettable tendency to crash file
> >> transfers :-(
> >
> >Could you expand on the details of when it causes these crashes?  I.E.
what
> >are Mirror's settings and what type of transfer process?
>
> Mac Tools 2.0 (earlier versions didn't cause the problem).  Set Mirrors

This is the difference.  I am still using version 1.2 (which works just fine
for me, I tend to forget it is even there).  Version 2.0 should arrive later
this week.  Based on this and the fact that version 1.2 works flawlessly so
far, I do not think I will upgrade this part of the package.  Which raises the
question:  "what other parts of the 2.0 package are a problem?"  I have been
really pleased with MacTools through all it's incarnations since the original
Copy II Mac.  Based on the mutterings I am hearing on the digest, it seems
that
Central Point fell to pressure to release version 2.0 a little early in order
to compete with NUM 2.0.  Could someone summarize which parts of the MacTools
version 2.0 package work just fine and which ones I am better off staying
with the v1.2 incarnations?  At least one can DO this with a multiple-tool
package! :{



> for 3 or 4 hour intervals (in spite of 54 extensions and cdevs I
> frequently don't restart for 3 to 5 days at time--I find claims that
> System 6 is more stable than 7 amusing <to be kind>--so just using
> Mirrors on startups or shutdowns doesn't really cover things).
>

I agree.  I think I average a crash maybe once every month now, and
that is typically because of some new or extremely piece of software I
try to run. Otherwise, since I access my files remotely a lot, I leave
my machine up pretty much for weeks at a time.  System 6 was NEVER
this stable.  Look at how fast Apple had to keep releasing different
versions from 6.0 up until it reached the *relatively* stable 6.07.
Even then I could count on a crash with that fairly frequently.  Of
course, maybe it really wasn't a problem with System 6, since I note
that after going to system 7 I very soon phased out using any
MicroSoft products as well... ;)  (Sorry, couldn't resist...)


> I've got two 80 MByte volumes to save information for.  Every time
> Mirrors fires up it takes 90 seconds or more (Norton 2.0's File Saver
> takes about 20 seconds).  Kermit, XModem, and ZModem have all lost track

This definitely is too long.  I have about the same amount of stuff
(about 4200 files) on two drives and it only takes the v1.2 Mirror 7
seconds (I just timed it).  It is so unobtrusive that I wasn't even
sure that I still had it properly set to go on periodically, but I
just checked and it is set for every 15 minutes!  That is what I call
'invisible' operation.

Based on this, Murph, you might want to dig out your old version...

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:30:01 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Hisham A. Abboud)
Subject: Mirror drives

In infomac v10 # 178 Murph Sewall writes:

> Mirrors is hopelessly slow and has a regrettable tendency to crash file
> transfers :-(

I use Mirror's 88 meg SyQuest, CD-ROM, 240 megs HD, and 19" b&w
monitor, and I can confidently say that I've NEVER had one
problem.  Mirror is a top-quality company, and I wouldn't buy
my peripherals from any other company.

Just thought I'd throw my 2 pennies worth...  It's all I have left
after buying all these peripherals!  :-)

                        Hisham.


Hisham A. Abboud, Cedrus Corp.  [Internet: [e-mail]]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:58:41 -0400
From: "Arel Y. Weisberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Norton/SUM and Disk Doubler

I'm considering purchasing the Norton/SUM package, and I'm concerned as
to how it interacts with Disk Doubler.  Has anyone encountered any
conflicts between the two programs?  (Comments as to conflicts with
other popular software would be appreciated as well.)

Thank you,
Arel Weisberg
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:03:31 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: October Surprise

I read the note posted to this list by Murph Sewall with great interest.  I am
wondering if Murph Sewall or any other readers of this list have read any
detai
ls about the 6-slot scorcherumored to come out this October.

Any further information would be greatly appreciatedB

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Date: 28 Jul 92 12:29:00+0200
From: Jacob Palme SKHB <[e-mail]>
Subject: Packages for writing portable graphic user interfaces

We are planning to develop a graphic user interface for an existing,
quite large piece of software written in C. The present system
exists for Unix and MSDOS computers with a semigraphic user
interface.

We want to save development cost by using one of the packages
around, which will allow you to use the same interface and just
switch a library of functions, to get the same program to run
on Macintosh, under MS-windows, under X-windows, under Motif,
under Open Look etc.

I have heard of three pieces of software which might provide
these facilities. They are:
XVT - Extensible Virtual Toolkit
Neuron Data Open Interface
Symantec Bedrock

I have no personal experience with these pieces of software.
Reading through the documentation, Neuron Data Open Interface
seems have more facilities for developing spread-sheet-like
applications, i.e. applications with tables of computable
cells.

I have talked to one developer who has used XVT. He says that
there are bugs in XVT, that it does not cover all you need
to do, so he still had to write some routines for screen
handling in addition to XVT, and that his total cost of
making his software work with XVT was about 900 000 dollars.
And still, in spite of this, he would not recommend against
XVT. Much of this was the cost of rewriting his basic software
into the object-oriented view needed for graphic user interfaces.

Is there anyone who has any more experience or recommendations
for or against these three packages? Is there something else
in addition to these three to consider?

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Date: TUE, 28 Jul 92 07:09:37 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"[e-mail]
Subject: Pirates

I didn't intend to bring the matter of pirating in Info-Mac Digest, since
it's so emotional, but Pete Tomas forced me to do so, by posting in volume 10
# 177 a private message I sent him, in which I was telling that softwares
pirating made me sick. That matter was addressed directly and indirectly
recently in the many "Stone Age Softwares" messages and before in other
Info-Mac Digest.
First, I would like to mention that in the last few years, I saw a lot of
improvements at work. We now have a better budget for softwares. Before there
was a budget for hardwares, but almost none for softwares. The situation
where I teach is not different of what it is at other educational levels. All
universities in the province of Quebec are experiencing problems since the
government is constantly cutting funds while we have more students. The
policy of one software for one machine is very difficult to follow when the
programs are expensive and frequently updated (Microsoft for example).
Special educational prices are helping a lot.
Second, just to help, people at work are often exchanging softwares with
each others. One serious problem we encounter is someone who creates
documents at work with a pirated program. That person leaves and is replaced
by someone else. A cleanup is done on the machine to make room (and mostly to
respect the laws ) including deleting the pirated program. When you want to
open the documents that were created, it's not always possible to do it with
your legal softwares. Sometimes it's very difficult to find the pirated
program that was used. Also, the possibility of lawsuits and criminal charges
is more and more present.
Third, I must admit that in my first years of computing I taught that the
copying of softwares was a cultural trait that you should share to be a
member of the gang. It was so kind to help a poor soul by giving away a
program that yourself got from another kind fellow (tears). My eyes were
opened by a software developer who designed MacKeymeleon. He told me he was
selling only a few packages and he knew that his product could be found
everywhere. He once came to a reunion of the Mac User Group in Quebec city
and asked how many bought his program. Only 10 out of more than 300 people
answered "yes".
Forth, many small companies are trying to make it in the software business.
We constantly see new products. Are we supporting sharewares? I once read a
very informative article in MacWorld about that topic. People are not
supporting sharewares, even when the price is very low. Ask Donald Brown of
C.E. Software. His company grew when he sold his softwares commercially.
Finally, I will make a comparison for those who don't have money to buy
softwares. Let's say that the hardware is a car and the softwares are the
fuel. If you have money only to buy a car, would you steal the gas?
Louis Bergeron                     [e-mail]
P.S. That message doesn't imply in any way that Info-Mac Digest readers are
pirates scanning the net to know how their pirated program function. It's just
my own personal opinion about what I have seen in my many years of computing.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:35:55 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerBook 110?

On Mon, 27 Jul 92 11:09:14 SET you said:
>My Apple dealer mentioned a PowerBook 110 to come out perhaps in October.
>What is supposed to be new in it?

The page 1 article in this weeks InfoWorld doesn't mention designations
but does say Apple will introduce on October 19 an under $2,000 16 MHz
68030 with built in floppy drive (a PB 140 by another name?  No features
not in the PB 140 are mentioned), a 25 MHz 68030 with a 16 grayscale LCD
and a 33 MHz 68030 with a 16 grayscale active matrix display.  There
will be a "docking station" with 2 NuBus slots and a video out for the
latter two new PBs.

Also on the same day, the 33 MHz IIzi with a built in slot for an
optional CD ROM drive (the long rumored IIci replacement).  Best guess
on price at this early date: retail of $2,700 (CPU only).

As usual, my MacWeek is late (it almost never gets delivered on
Monday--sometimes it takes it a week to show up :-(

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:22:12 +0200
From: Thomas Braeunl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problems with Postscript Files

I have a problem with Postscript files generated by Word 4.0 .
When transferring the postscript file of a Word document to a Unix system,
it will print only the first page and then aborts (Ghostview displays the
pages correctly, but also reports numerous errors/warnings.
Any help is appreciated:
     [e-mail]

Thanks
 Thomas

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 09:03:57 U
From: "Robert Hess" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE- Generic HD Icon

RE: Generic HD Icon
RE: "Today my custom HD icon was replaced by a plain white icon.
When I try to paste a new icon I get a cryptic finder message saying
something like: The operation could not be done since it could not be found.
Does anybody have an idea of what is going on here?"

This happens to folders when the "Use Custom Icon" bit of the folder is set
but
the invisible "Icon\13" file inside that folder has been deleted or
corrupted.
The solution in this case is to turn the bit off (using ResEdit 2.1.1 or a
similar utility) and delete the invisible "Icon\13" file if it exists. Then,
restart the Finder and you should be able to add a new custom icon.

As for the icon of the hard disk itself, I'm not sure exactly how this works.
Since there doesn't appear (from a cursory examination I just made) to be any
way to reset a "Use Custom Icon" bit for a volume, I'm not sure how the Finder
determines when to use a custom icon. I suspect that copying an existing
invisible "Icon\13" file from a folder to the root directory of the volume
(which is where the Finder expects to find the icon for that volume) might
work
(after resetting the Finder).

By the way, "Icon\13" means "Icon" followed by a carriage return character
(ASCII 13).

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 09:11:57 U
From: "Robert Hess" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE- Internet<->Commercial S

RE: Internet<->Commercial Services
RE: "which of the commercial services (eg Compuserve, Genie, etc) works best
to
send messages to Internet sites?"

They all work equally well but each has dis/advantages.

AppleLink and CompuServe charge extra for the sending of messages to
Internet.
America Online does not charge anything extra. I don't know what GEnie's rules
are.

ALink, CIS and AOL all have limits on how large a message can be. If memory
serves me, ALink is 28K, CIS is 32K and AOL is 24K.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 09:17:32 U
From: "Robert Hess" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE- PB 110

RE: PB 110
RE: "My Apple dealer mentioned a PowerBook 110 to come out perhaps in
October.
What is supposed to be new in it?"

This is unlikely. As reported in yesterday's MacWEEK, Apple is about to
release
the PB 145, which will probably become the bottom-of-the-line PowerBook. I
believe MacWEEK has previously reported the imminent demise of the PB 100,
though I don't believe Apple has officially confirmed it.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:48:46 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: rebind caps_lock on PB170?

I'm sure this question has been asked a million times already, but I'm new to
this game.  Is there any way to swap caps_lock and ctrl on the Powerbook 170
keyboard?  I've managed to disable caps_lock and to make caps_lock be
ctrl_lock (both using ResEdit), but can find no swap the two keys.  ResEdit
makes reference to a KMAP and a KCAP resource, but gives no useful information
about how to deal with these.  Can these be used to swap these two keys?

Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:47:51 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Roger Brooks)
Subject: RedEdit batch processing

To ResEdit power users, a simple question:

Is there a simple way to set the "Use Custom Icon" bit in the Get Info
windows of 85 files, without opening each individually?  I'm hoping for
some kind of batch mode (obviously, I'm not a very experienced ResEdit
user...).

Thanks in advance,

Roger Brooks
Connecticut College
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 08:31:37 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Wade Williams)
Subject: ResEdit Hack

>DITL resource 6045 is the Replace file dialog in the System file.  I
>renumbered the buttons such that the Replace button is #1 and the Cancel
>button is #2.  Now, lo and behold the Replace button is the default
>choice instead of the Cancel button (which is what I want, human inter-
>face guidelines or not).  However, after doing this, the Replace button
>acts like the Cancel button and the Cancel button is now the Replace
>button.  What to do?  Perhaps someone knows the right code resource to
>alter a la the recent modification to get the finder to show the free
>disk space in K versus M.

Unless you can find someone with a great knowledge of assembly language and
a lot of time on their hands, it can't be done.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:38:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bill Wing, OLC, 615-574-8839; [e-mail])
Subject: SAYETT DATASHOW HR/M Projection Pad (Q)

My sister is a high school French teacher in Des Moines IA.  She has a
MAC LC, a modem and some special emulation software that supports the
French Minitel system.  I don't know the details, but Minitel has some
sort of US gateway through which she is able to dial up and she (or her
students) can interact with the Minitel equivalents of forums, discussion
groups, and various databases.  The order was placed for her by the local
PeeCee expert, and the LCD projection screen he bought for her is a SAYETT
DATASHOW HR/M which comes with a dealer-installable video adapter for a
Macintosh Plus, SE, SE/30, or 512K; but of course *is not* compatible
with her LC.  She has given up on getting any help locally and turned to
me; so of course I turn to the source of all information...

A quick perusal of MacWeek, MacWorld, and (forgive me) InfoWorld shows no
current adds listing SAYETT.  Does anyone out there know anything about
the company.  The datasheet she sent me doesn't even list a phone number
or address for them.  If they are still in business, I would hope they
have an adapter for the LC that she could order.  But I need an address
or phone number I can pass on to her.

Any leads would be much appreciated.

Bill Wing

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:34:41 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: scroll2 utility

On 27 Jul 1992 12:30:46 +1200 you said:
>i would like to get hold of scroll2, a shareware utility mentioned in the
>july issue of macuser, on p 13. it is available from ziffnet/mac, but does
>not appear to be on sumex-aim.

Sez who?  info-mac/cp/scroll2-2111.hqx posted last Feb 18.  How'd you
miss it?  Is there a newer version than 2.1.11?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:09:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Thomas R. Blake)
Subject: Serbian language font

Folks,

    I have a user who wants a Serbian typeface.  Searching all of the usual
sources have not produced one.  Can anyone point me to one?

                        Tom Blake
                        Binghamton University

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Date: 28 Jul 1992 09:14:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Colin Lamb <[e-mail]>
Subject: SLIP & Telnet 2.5 for VAX 8650 (Q)

I did connect with Telnet 2.5 via modem to our phone switch and then to the
VAX here at Drake last nite.  Terminal emulation was OK

What I really want to do is establish a SLIP connection.  The docs with Telnet
2.5 tell you how to set up a SLIP connection for a DEC Station (we have one,
but I really prefer VMS to UNIX).  So - what can you do to set up SLIP in
a VMS environment?  As always - Thanks in advance for all your NetHelp,
folks!

BTW - The DEC station and UNIX are really good for one thing -
Eudora!  Our DE
Eudora!  Our DEC Station has been getting new software (ULTRIX) and is still
not running the POP server.  Hence, I am composing this on VAX Mail (yuch).

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 92 11:21:18 U
From: "Capp Luckett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: StartupScreen

   Inter-Department Memo
SUBJECT:   StartupScreen                                  7/28/92      11:12
AM
Question:

I am having the StartupScreen on my Mac IIcx (System 7.0) display color
startup
screens.  I have tried them from Canvas and Gifconverter software.

Is there a command I need to use to reset something?

Capp Luckett
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:53:58 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: The needs of asses :-)

>    If it helps asses my needs, ....
(Quote from a recent Digest item)

Yes, satisfied customers assure us that a Mac can even be helpful to asses,
mules, etc., although asses tend to stick with DOS. :-)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:09:26 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Typing Tutor for Adults

I am looking for a shareware/freeware or inexpensive commercial typing tutor
that is designed for an adult learner.

Any advice wuld be appreciated.

Ben
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:56:34 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dennis J. Templeton)
Subject: Zmodem to appdisk trashed my files!

Here is my tale of woe:

I was transferring some uuencoded files using Whiteknight/Zmodem at
2400baud and since I was going to have to manipulate them I thought It
would be neat to have them loaded directly into my recently-acquired
appdisk (which seems to work great otherwise).  The transfer went great,
with the exception that I lost my link a couple of times 'cause the system
that I transfer through went down.. nonetheless WK picked up the files
halfway and finished the transfer.  The UUfiles were intact.

However, my mac started to act weird... a couple of print drivers were
corrupted, my screen saver was broken, several of my extentions failed to
work, etc.  I fixed up the system piece by piece, and was wondering if I
was the victim of some virus despite using gatekeeper.  All of the modified
files dated to the time of the transfer.

Today, a week later, I find that a 50 page Word document (that I had backed
up to floppy, thank the lord) had been replaced by-- you guessed it-- about
50 kb of the UUencoded file.  Sheesh!  I'm wondering how many more
surprises await me!

Where did I screw up here?  Needless to say, I now transfer only to a real
disk, and I would recommend the same to all of you.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:22:25 -0400
From: Marc Dionne <[e-mail]>

Subject: NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 and french accentuate caractere. (Q)

Does NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 as emulating software support
french accentuate caractere?

When I read the documentation of NCSA, I suppose that is possible
but I'm not able to find the right configuration.

I use a Mac IIsi with the french version of system 7.0 with Tune up 1.1.1.

In NCSA Telnet:
     I set the "Eight bit font?" flag in the configuration dialog box.
     I try emulation vt100/vt200/vt220 in the config.tel file.
     I try the "Use system KCHR for keyboard mapping" in the preferences
     option.

After many test, I never can enter an accentuate caractere.  If I try to
display a file who is contening some of those caractere, sometimes I get
some graphic caractere and othertime some acsii standard caractere.


Thanks in advance for your help.

Marc Dionne      [e-mail]      [phone]

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