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- From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
- Subject: Re: The Perennial Piracy Debate (was Re: Bilestoad)
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- References: <1992Jul21.215710.12912@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> <6vfmmzb.payner@netcom.com> <bazyar.711852801@teal> <bxgmdhg.payner@netcom.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:31:17 GMT
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- payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
-
- >In article <bazyar.711852801@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
-
- >Wow, you know each and every pirate personally and can verify this?
- >Do they also drive Mercedies? You need to learn to read.
-
- I'm telling you from personal experience, and from talking with a number
- of IIgs software pirates, many of whom run BBSs. Again, even if a
- particular person is too poor to afford a $30 game (very unlikely),
- does this mean that it is okay for him to pirate it?
-
- >I need to check some numbers, but I bet that the claimed lost profits
- >exceed the expendable income of America. If this is the case, the argument
- >cannot be valid.
-
- Why is that? Let's say that Microsoft has sold 5 million copies of Windows.
- Let's say that there are 40 million pirates copies in use. That's $400mil
- right there that morally and legally belongs to Microsoft. Now, start
- adding up all of the other heavily pirated packages for machines and
- yes, I can see how you might very well achieve a number that exceeds the
- amount of money Americans have to spend. Does this mean then that since
- technically it's not lost profits that these pirates aren't doing any harm
- by pirating? In addition, there's still a lot of money that Americans
- _do_ have to spend that isn't going where it belongs.
-
- >And it is also your issue, not mine. If you want to talk about the lost
- >profits argument, I will be glad to. As for the rest, you go non-linear,
- >and seem to think that I said and implied tons of stuff that I absolutely
- >did not say or imply. You even went as far as to edit out the line where
- >I said that I am not defending piracy, just attacking the lost-profits
- >argument. And I did not mean in general, but as it is being used by the
- >software industry, specifically, and only.
-
- Okay, fine.
-
- >Is this really Jawaid? This is the first time I have seen you rant. And
- >it is really sad that you went so far beyond what I had said to do so.
-
- Yes, it's really me. I got off on a tangent, one that's becoming
- very important to me. I apologize if I insinuated anything about you
- in particular, but it's sad to see any IIgs enthusiast _not_ come
- up in arms against piracy.
-
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