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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
- Message-ID: <5cgmw#n.payner@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 04:52:51 GMT
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1992Jul21.131149.2441@klaava.Helsinki.FI> <n2fmp7c.payner@netcom.com> <1992Jul22.205159.19989@unlinfo.unl.edu>
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- In article <1992Jul22.205159.19989@unlinfo.unl.edu> gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:
- >payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>
- >>>
- >>>>cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:
- >
- >>>>>Ok, folks: I just spent over half an hour searching articles that deal
- >>>>>with moderating c.b.a2. I did NOT find reasons for not moderating except
- >>>>>for two, which where stated by Amrit. So, please stop claiming
- >>>>>otherwise.
- >
- >>No, -I- do think that this is the wrong way around. Read a bit more carefully
- >>please. The proposal is to change cb2a, so this proposal should be supported.
- >>That you missed humdreds of posts in cs2a on this topic shows your lack of
- >>involvment. Which brings to mind my question, what do you care? And why?
- >
- >Articles posted ONLY to comp.sys.apple2 regarding the moderation of
- >comp.binaries.apple2, by the Guidelines, do NOT count. Only what
- >appears in news.groups is recognized discussion. Crossposted items are
- >fine. These are not my rules, it is just the way it is.
-
- Be that as it may be, it completely misses the question.
-
- BTW, although you claim that you did NOT find reason for not moderating, it
- is exactly as true for reasons TO moderate. It ain't broke, it does not need
- to be fixed.
-
- >>what do you care? You are neither a poster or a lurker in the apple2
- >>groups, or you would not have to ask questions like you do above. Vote as
- >>you wish, but I cannot see why you would vote at all. Do you even have an
- >>Apple //? The vote would not affect you at all unless you do. But your
- >>vote could have a negative impact upon the actual users of the groups.
- >>Not that you seem to care.
- >
- >I know of some people who will not get involved with any binaries group
- >unless it is moderated.
-
- Obviously their opinion counts more than those who -use- the group.
-
- >>The real question is why do we -need- moderation. The answer is that we do
- >>not -need- moderation. It would prevent a few annoyances, at a cost which
- >>will exceed the value of the few benefits.
- >
- >Annoyances which still continue, even at the peak of the discussion
- >period on moderation. Many people, when they first join USENET, have
- >groups presented to them in alphabetical order. "binaries" comes before
- >"sys".
-
- And they -still- are no more than annoyances.
-
- >Besides, the way this will be implemented, the maximum delay of an
- >article will be 5 days. After 5 days have elapsed, any submitted
- >article will be approved _automatically_. Since Jawaid and I are online
- >daily (if not hourly), and can do the moderation duties simultaneously,
- >it is unlikely that that 5 day period will be reached. Most likely,
- >during active time, an archive would be delayed only by 2 days of
- >receipt of the final part, maximum. Discussion posts can be relayed to
- >comp.sys.apple2 immediately, and likely help given to the person
- >immediately as well, such as a request for an expired post or the
- >perennial "How do I decode these files?" posted to .binaries.
-
- So why is it that rather than supporting the proposition directly, you
- ask the wrong question. The proposal being to -add- moderation, the question
- that needs to be answered is -why- add moderation. It seems that you have
- a personal stake in this. And it also seems you are being deliberatly
- evasive. These are not qualities I find attractive in a moderator.
-
- >>Rich
- >>payner@netcom.com
- >
- >That reminds me, I need to send the 3rd RFD today!
-
- The discussion period drags on. All arguments were posted within the first
- week it seems. Nothing new or different has been posted for a long time.
-
- >-- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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