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- From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
- Message-ID: <3450@faatcrl.UUCP>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 14:59:52 GMT
- References: <rlcarr.04qa@animato.network23.com> <1T9FoB6w164w@zswamp.UUCP> <62802@cup.portal.com> <3417@faatcrl.UUCP> <Bs2KD7.9q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <3436@faatcrl.UUCP> <62993@cup.portal.com>
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- Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
-
- >In other words, Jack, use the CI$ automated programs to see what's new
- >in their libraries but don't download there, cuz their prices are so
- >high.. instead, go scour local BBSes (and put up with busy signals)
- >or wait and see if the stuff shows up on Fish Disks?
-
- Hey, everyone's talking economics here, and if dollars are so damned
- important, then yes, *all* of the pay services take a back seat to a BBS
- and a 14.4k modem.
-
- If you look at ROA from AT&T, you're talking $7.00/hr for calls anywhere
- in the states after 11pm for throughputs of ~1650cps w/ZMODEM.
-
- Sure, you have to put up with busy signals and you won't have the convience
- of having all the files you want on one system, but there are some that are
- better than others, just like the pay services.
-
- >Besides that, a national or international online service offers a sense
- >of "community" that simply can't be found on one or two line user-run
- >BBSes. It's also highly unlikely that you can log into a BBS and find
- >dozens of big-name Amiga developers hanging out, posting notices and
- >answering questions (and putting a stop to rumors).
-
- That is the best reason for the pay services, the message bases. But, there
- is also the point that as the cost for a service goes up, the background noise
- goes down proportionally as well.
-
- Take a look here on USENET, and Fidonet for that matter. Both are largely
- "free" systems, the noise levels are damned close to intolerable at times.
-
- BIX and CIS are undeniably more expensive than Portal, but their message
- bases are pratically free of clutter. In some ways, that has value that
- offsets the additional charges.
-
- BTW, if you're a registered developer, BIX is where you want to be. Can't
- speak for the numbers of them willing to answer questions to the users though,
- but I'd expect that it's at least comparable, if not better, than Portal.
-
- >shelter. Don't you think that a service with enormous Amiga resources
- >on board, one that's multi-user and well-maintained, and is MUCH
- >lower priced than another service should be considered as an extremely
- >viable alternative? It would seem that only the rich wouldn't care.
-
- Let's have a little "truth in advertising" here, ok? Portal is certainly
- a decent service, offers a good bit of value and has a pretty good advocate
- for keeping the quality of the Amiga areas in top-notch shape.
-
- That is all true.
-
- But it is not MUCH cheaper for *everyone*. The bulk of its price is
- dependant on PCPursuit. If you don't have that as an option Portal
- begins to look like GEnie on a per hour basis.
-
- >If it helps to sweeten the stew any, Portal customers are about to be
- >treated to a fully intuitionized Amiga front end which will allow
- >them to do all the things the programs you named can do on their host
- >system: capture streams of notices and read and reply to them offline
- >(using one's favorite text editor), get file catalogs and choose files
- >to be downloaded upon next log in, read and reply to email, and so on.
-
- That is a very good development. Great to hear it.
-
- >or any scripting to set up and operate. As an added plus, the author
- >of the program is going to release it as fully-enabled shareware.
- >No crippling of features. No demanding bucks up front to get a useful
- >version.
-
- Still can't resist those little digs when you have the opportunity, eh?
-
- >So there are ways to do things, and there are other ways to do things.
- >One can submit to a barrage of advertising and then learn how fast
- >a credit card can melt. Or one can do a bit of judicious shopping and
- >learn of the alternatives out there whereby they can get just as much,
- >no, MORE of what they're after and do it for a mere fraction of the
- >cost.
-
- *IF* PCPursuit is available to you, it's not nearly as attractive otherwise.
-
- -jack-
-