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- From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
- Subject: Re: OS2 Good news and Bad news (OS2 & a little windows too)
- Keywords: os2
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.165948.20220@njitgw.njit.edu>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 16:59:48 GMT
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- In article <yeates.711750372@beryl17> yeates@rtsg.mot.com (Tony J Yeates) writes:
- >6) I asked them to run AMi Pro, my chosen word processor. Oh dear oh dear! It
- >was oh, so , slow to come up. The rep. tried to cover up by stepping up
- >the talking - but it was too long for that. It seemed like about 4 minutes to
- >load, but it was probably less. It was certainly embarrassingly and painfully slow.
- >The rep. said it had to load a lot of things, DOS then windows, then AMI, but even
- >so - it was SLOW (remember 486 16M RAM ....).
-
- That's a minor complaint of mine as well. When you start an WIN-OS2
- session, you must start a DOS session, run the DOS session's
- AUTOEXEC.BAT file, and then run WINOS2.COM. Once that's going, your
- application can load. It can take a while in some cases.
-
- The rep should have had a WIN-OS2 session started in the background,
- and switch to it to launch AMI Pro. It would have looked better that
- way...
-
- Imagine re-booting your computer into DOS, and starting Windows before
- launching your app. That's what OS/2 had to do. Not that it makes
- things better, but it is a very valid reason.
-
- >8) No SVGA driver yet. Rep. claimed that their would be one/some.
-
- There are many third party SVGA drivers. Contact your board
- manufacturer. I'm using SVGA modes on my ATI VGA-1024 board with no
- problems.
-
- >10) Apparently a resource hog.
-
- But there are enough resources that it's not a problem. Under DOS, a
- 512K program is too big. Under OS/2, it's not that significant.
-
- >Conclusion: nice GUI, DOS and windows compatibility is not 100%, its
- >buggy, VGA reslotion only. Slow at times. Call me when its finished
- >(full compatability, SVGA drivers, stacker-like compression, or code
- >size reduce by run-time linking).
-
- Your opinion. Nobody claimed it's DOS compatibility to be 100% As
- for Windows, it runs anything you have if it works in Standard mode.
-
- SVGA drivers are avilable from your board manufacturer. Contact them.
- Neither DOS nor Windows ships with stacker-like compression, why do
- you insist that OS/2 provide this? Anyway, Stacker corp. is working
- on stacker for OS/2.
-
- OS/2 has run-time linking in it already. If you look closely, you'll
- find a directory FULL of dynamic link libraries (DLL's). Look in the
- \OS2\DLL directory. Without them, the simplest PM-based program would
- be about 3MB in size! Applications developers can create their own
- DLL's for their own code - Excel for PM has about 1.5MB of them, as do
- many other OS/2 apps. What else were you thinking of?
-
- Of course, DOS programs have to do their own dynamic linking. Windows
- programs can use Windows DLL's just fine - place them on the PATH or
- in the Windows\SYSTEM directory, just like under DOS.
-
- >I hope OS2 gets fixed and succeeds, but its still in the alpha/beta stage IMHO.
-
- I guess you consider DOS and Windows also in the alpha/beta stages,
- too. They've got all the same problems, and sometimes more.
-
- >Is it time to buy a Mac? (WOT! - No command line?! No character-based shell?!
- >How do you program the darn thing? Drag and drop a wysiwyg word processed files
- >to a compiler icon? )
-
- Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way. It'd be neat if it did,
- though. Mac compilers usually work as an integrated development
- system, much like Borland does with their Turbo languages. You start
- the editor, and tell the compiler what to do with the edit buffer(s)
- via the menu bar.
-
-
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