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- From: NEWSDAY1@delphi.com
- Subject: Re: Phreaks indicted
- Message-ID: <01GMVETRJ73O8WW6TV@delphi.com>
- Originator: daemon@eff.org
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- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:51:00 GMT
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- system@freds.cojones.com writes:
-
- >You can't be serious...
-
- >If Waldo Q. Milquetoast, your next door neighbor, was listed in the paper as
- >a suspect in a child molestation, I highly doubt you would let your 9 year
- >old daughter play in the front yard anymore. Most people simply don't think
- >this way, which is why one must obtain high-priced lawyers and buy one's way
- >out of the charges.
-
- >If the citizenry has the right to know who is supposedly a child molester,
- >then why do we fool anyone by claiming innocent until proven guilty? If we
- >are innocent until proven guilty, then no one should know if someone stands
- >accused until they are convicted.
-
- I am serious -- are you? Taking your argument to its logical conclusion,
- are you suggesting that we hold secret trials so that the identities of
- the accused remain hidden? Should law enforcement be permitted to conduct
- secret raids and arrests, all ostensibly to protect those caught in their
- nets?
-
- Certain representatives of the justice system would gladly support your
- arguments, but not for the same reasons as you. Other countries, like
- China, happily follow such practices. The justice system is open here
- in order to protect us from those kinds of excesses. Certainly, an
- individual accused of a crime may find such openness not to his or her
- liking. Unfortunately, that's the way it works sometimes. It's not a
- perfect world.
-
- The accused are entitled to a presumption of innocence. If you mean to
- suggest that the public at-large doesn't always grant that presumption,
- you're right. Fortunately, however, our laws aren't written with public
- opinion as the primary consideration. Sometimes the system works despite
- the public's lack of deep thought about how it works.
-
- I wonder how the Craig Neidorf case would have turned out if the charges
- against him had remained secret (for his own protection, of course)?
-
- Evan Rudowski
-