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- From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,can.uucp
- Subject: Re: UUCP 'g' vs. MNP & V.42
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.045202.14224@becker.GTS.ORG>
- Date: 27 Jul 92 04:52:02 GMT
- References: <1992Jul20.052318.29102@zooid.guild.org> <1992Jul23.180658.20724@eci386.uucp> <1992Jul24.034646.26340@chance.gts.org>
- Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
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- In article <1992Jul24.034646.26340@chance.gts.org> john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan) writes:
- ||Anybody running MNP at any level with UUCP 'g' should have their modem
- ||and UUCP configurations examined! :-)
- |
- |I don't know, I use MNP-5 (and hence 4) on two of my mostly-mail (ie.
- |uncompressed) connections and I see much improved throughput. Even on
- |much of the compressed stuff there is some improvement, though there
- |is sometimes also degradation.
- |
- ||MNP-4 is link-layer protocol that retries erroneous packets. UUCP 'g'
- ||is a link-layer protocol that retries erroneous packets. Guess what
- ||-- the don't get along very well!
- |
- |Why not? The 'g' protocol would just never (or very rarely; only in
- |modem-to-computer failures) see failures. In my case, where the 'g'
- |protocol isn't spoofed at the modem, and has to go all the way to the
- |computer, that's a win.
- |
- ||... [V.42bis, MNP-5, and LZ are all variants of the Lempel-Ziv
- ||compression algorithm, though most implementations of MNP-5 *reduce*
- ||throughput with pre-compressed data, and each have varying degrees of
- ||efficiency and ratios of compression.]
- |
- |It's my understanding that all MNP-5 implementations will sometimes
- |reduce throughput of some pre-compressed data because the compression
- |is always done; it's not dependent on the implementation, but on the
- |data. This is unlike V.42bis, where if the compressed block is larger
- |than the original, the uncompressed block is sent.
-
-
- I've turned MNP off on all my modems because
-
-
- 1. it seems inefficient to have it on top of
- uucp frames;
-
-
- 2. I can't turn on V.42bis compression indep-
- endently from MNP-5 compression;
-
-
- 3. the telebits bid V.42 first, then if it is
- enabled, MNP. By the time the modems have
- gone thru all the tones etc., uucico might
- have given up in disgust 8^)
-
-
- --
- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario
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