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- From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Help on upgrade to 16550A UART
- Message-ID: <uD4DoB4w164w@zswamp.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:04:17 EDT
- References: <711674669snx@n5ial.chi.il.us>
- Organization: Izot's Swamp
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- jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham) writes:
-
- > In article <RXc6NB7w164w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP writes:
- >
- > > pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:
- > > > The 16550 can support higher speeds than 19200 where the 8250 cannot.
- > >
- > > Is that a fact? This doesn't agree with my (not documented) experience,
- > > which suggests that an 8250 of recent manufacture is good to 57,600 (and a
- > > 16450 to 115200) bps.
- >
- > well, I decided to pull out the old National Semiconductor data sheets
- > on these chips to get the real story right from NS, and got a bit of a
- > surprise....
- >
- > first, the old 8250 UART I once had installed most certainly refused to
- > be programmed higher than 9600 bps.
-
- I don't get it. You mean to say that it refused to register divider values
- that would result in speeds higher than 9600 bps? How long ago was that?
-
- > it was a UM8250B, which indicates to me that it's a clone of the NS chip,
-
- Sounds like UMC (Universal Microelectronics Corporation), a Korean company
- who've come from Asian obscurity to the point where just about every generic
- clone has UMC parts in it.
-
- > second, I know I set a 16450 at 115.2 kb....but the data sheets for the
- > 450 say it doesn't go that high. perhaps that chip is another clone,
- > too....I can't open that computer up to find out, though. :-(
-
- As you know, the bps rate is equal to the 115,200 / the divider you
- provide. The 8250, I believe, was not reliable with a divider lower than 2
- (with a resulting speed of 57,600 bps), but the 16450 was supposed to work
- with a divisor of 1. Of course, the first batches might easily have been less
- than up to spec, and clones are always a different kettle of fish altogether.
-
- > anyways, here's what the data sheets have to say on the speeds that each
- > can be set to (for the moment not considering reliability...just how
- > fast they can be programmed at):
- >
- > INS8250/INS8250-B: DC to 56k page 4-3
- > NS16450/INS8250A/NS16C450/INS82C50A: DC to 56k page 4-19
- > NS16550AF: DC to 256k page 4-36
-
- That last figure must be with a non-standard crystal, right?
-
- Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
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