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- From: hyder@mrbean.scd.ucar.edu (Paul Hyder)
- Subject: Re: Early and Late Collision
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.144127.17781@ncar.ucar.edu>
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- Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
- References: <1992Jul29.012447.4664@gecko.uucp> <Bs5t9D.4yo@zoo.toronto.edu> <1992Jul30.003641.22901@news.iastate.edu>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:41:27 GMT
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- >> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
- >> }Once the necessary time for consensus has elapsed and no collision has
- >> }been seen, all nodes should agree that there is a transmission in progress.
- >> }A properly-functioning Ethernet node will not attempt to transmit between
- >> }seeing that somebody else is transmitting and the end of that transmission.
- >> }A late collision is one occurring after consensus should have been achieved.
- >> }It means something is badly wrong somewhere -- either a misconfigured
- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- >> }network or a malfunctioning node.
- >>
- >> Most likely a segment longer than the longest allowed.
-
- I just can't let this one pass. In my experience single segment length
- is rarely the cause of late collisions. It is too easy to find and
- fix. ;{) In recent years the ones I've seen have included bad
- transceivers, bad repeaters, too many repeaters, and multiport
- transceivers three deep. Henry's "misconfigured" is closer to most
- reality.
-
- BTW I've seen short collisions exactly twice: Once when a net had
- been installed with intrusive taps in multiple barrel connected groups
- of two to seven taps and once recently with overdriven fiber ethernet.
- These are also not supposed to be possible, unfortunately many lan
- analyzers can't or won't capture them. [Isolating the barrel
- connected transceivers was truly a pain. Those collisions were
- 2-6bytes long. FYI The fiber overdrive created a bunch of 8 byte
- collisions.]
- Paul Hyder
- High Performance Systems and Networking
- NCAR
-