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- From: nikolaid@cc.gatech.edu (Ioanis Nikolaidis)
- Subject: Re: Issues, mostly unresolved
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.201052.22822@cc.gatech.edu>
- Followup-To: comp.dcom.cell-relay
- Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
- Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
- References: <1992Jul17.152436.4409@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:10:52 GMT
- Lines: 68
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- Related to article <1992Jul17.152436.4409@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>
- from young@bantha.decnet.lockheed.com:
- >3) 10 Mbps cell relay will not support HDTV?
- >
- > True, but it supports compressed video quite nicely, and uncompressed
- >low resolution video, as well has high quality sound, voice mail, and
- >works great for image distribution and distributed data bases. It allows
- >for deskttop controlled conferencing. These things are important, probably
- >more important than HDTV in the private network business.
-
- In the document COM XVIII-R 34-E of CCITT Study Group XVIII -
- (Report R 34) of June 1990, on page 46, a specification of the
- service integration for video is given.
- They recognize the enormous differences of the
- video terminal equipment capabilities and link speeds and
- propose the following "solution":
-
- Video coding is performed in a "layered" fashion.
- The sender of a video connection encodes the
- signal with a layered approach. Each layer "adds up" some more
- detail on the visual result of the previous layers.
- If all layers are decoded and presented at the video
- terminal, then the images are presented
- with the best fidelity.
-
- However, the terminal equipment may be capable of receiving
- only some of these layers (and not necessarily all). The number
- of layers received by a terminal is related of course to the
- quality of the equipment. A terminal is free to decode only part
- of the transmitted layers to obtain just enough information to
- reconstruct the image at its own level of image fidelity.
- This alone "solves" the diversity problem of video terminals.
-
- The same approach can be used to cope with limited bandwidth
- BUT we need an active network entity that selectively discards
- the cells related to the "redundant" layers and in a way "filters
- out" the portion of the bandwidth that is used for improvement
- of the image. Hence, the connection can be squeezed in a slower
- link but with a penalty on image quality.
-
- The subject was left for "further study" in report 34.
-
- My question is the following:
-
- If an approach is implemented as described above, what is the
- network component that will discard the "upper" "enhancement"
- layers of the video connection to reduce the required bandwidth
- (to be conveyed on a (say) 10Mbps link)?
- Will this component work on the ATM layer or on the AAL?
- (If you reply "the ATM layer" you must show me a place in
- the header where the video layer "level" is placed. If you
- reply "the AAL" the question is if we will need reassembly
- of video packets.)
-
- Has there been any followup to the idea?
- OR is my copy of the standard terribly outdated?
-
- Final note: The direction towards a "layered" approach
- does not encourage diversity of video coding
- algorithms. In fact, all applicable coding methods must be
- in reference (at least) to the overall layered structure -- i.e. if we
- decide that layer 1 is luminosity and layer 2 is hue (a B+W receiver only
- uses layer 1) then a coding algorithm that "mixes"
- luminosity and hue information is not appropriate.
-
- ---
- Yannis Nikolaidis
- (nikolaid@cc.gatech.edu)
-