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- From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
- Newsgroups: alt.peeves
- Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
- Message-ID: <a5qkoB16w165w@mantis.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:22:33 BST
- References: <92206.093638JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
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- Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
- > It is not *illegal* to belong to, say, the communist party. It *is*
- > illegal to take, well, illegal drugs.
-
- But of course. That's because Communism is not evil enemy of the month,
- whereas drugs are.
-
- Of course, before nasty aliens like me are allowed to enter the USA, we have
- to say that we've never been members of the Communist Party. But that's just
- a little joke, right?
-
- > First of all, nobody's sending anyone to prison. They're merely giving
- > them a choice: enroll in drug treatment, or stop receiving handouts.
-
- Has it occurred to you that people might want to choose to take drugs? That
- they might do so occasionally, without becoming addicted?
-
- > only receive food stamps. Second, there is a difference between being
- > *willing* to take a drug test, and having an orgasm over the prospect.
- > I wouldn't *like* it, but I would be happy to do it if it meant that a)
- > people with problems would be forced to get treatment,
-
- If drug use weren't illegal, you'd have Drug-users Anonymous alongside
- Alcoholics Anonymous. You wouldn't have to force people to get treatment,
- they'd walk in and ask for help of their own free will.
-
- No doubt during prohibition there were similar schemes requiring that those
- found to be consuming alcohol should report to rehabilitation centres or be
- imprisoned and forced to do so. You look it up, it's your country's history.
-
- > and b) I would
- > know that I wasn't eating on $5 a week to finance someone else's drug
- > habit (which I don't happen to be quite doing now, but I have done it
- > for considerable periods of time since I started supporting myself
- > after college in 1990).
-
- Well, given that it costs more to keep addicts in jail than to give them
- treatment for their addiction, I'd say your big concern should be stopping
- the "war on drugs" and spending the money on rehabilitation centres. Then
- there'd be no money wasted on jailing drug users, and everyone who wanted
- treatment would be able to get it.
-
- > Peeve: People who think that people have a *right* to indulge in illegal
- > activities.
-
- Yeah. Let's jail all those law-breakers who engage in oral sex or sex
- outside marriage. They have no right to have sex, so lock 'em up.
-
- > ObHoney: Honey, you better not be one of those militant anti-smokers,
- > too. That would just be too inconsistent.
-
- The rule is simple and consistent. You can smoke, snort or inject whatever
- the hell you want, just so long as *I* don't have to join in.
-
-
- mathew
- --
- "Even the most bizarre of the unions (probably that between a cat's gall
- stone and a single note 'G' from CNN's ident theme) managed to convey a
- sense of rampant impropriety." -- 'Fortran Five', Simon G. Lawrence Leonard
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