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- From: jds2@po.CWRU.Edu (John D. Specht)
- Subject: Re: Possible to Obtain magic powers>?
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- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:13:17 GMT
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- (They're ganging up on me! Fr. Negris, comments?)
- In a previous article, erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) says:
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- >jds2@po.CWRU.Edu (John D. Specht) writes:
- >
- >: I think I would find being all-powerful INTENSLEY boring. That's probably one
- >: of the few reasons I'm not. The only limitation of the individual are the ones
- >: he/she chooses. (Richard Bach, _Illusions_) As for the part about "what
- >
- >But you are. All of us are all-powerful. We have accepted the limitations of
- >flesh so that we can experience those limits, and learn from them.
-
- Um, that's an interesting way to look at the situation, and I can't argue it
- except I don't have any memory of "accepting the limitation of the flesh" at
- any time, so I'm wondering if maybe I was drunk at the time.
-
- >: >urealistic. Each person comes into this world to learn something. Some
- >: When did you discover this information? If you found it in yourself, it is
- >: true for you. If your teacher told you, and you chose to believe, it is
- >: true for both of you.
- >
- >Are you saying that it is not true for you? There are basic rules by which
- >the universe operates, and that is one of them.
-
- How did you discover these rules? Again I would argue that what you have found
- to be your truth may be not so true for those not sharing all of your
- previous experiences.
-
- >: >integrety, which again is a learning process.
- >: I have no integrity in the social sense of the term. I would as easily kill
- >: a lady as kiss her, depending on the necessary behavior. (What _I_ decide is
- >: necessary.) And I have no appreciation for that which does not benefit me
- >
- >Then what do you base your decisions on? Are you not ruled by your own karma?
- >Killing will generate a large amount of disharmonious karma. Kissing her, in
- >some circumstances, may also generate disharmonious karma.
-
- If a man has roamed the country, doing much bodily harm for some time, and
- I have an opportunity to end this destruction, I will. I consider the 'karma'
- (if you want to call it that) of the world, rather than my own, and in fact,
- I would benefit from that act, having made the world a better place.
-
- >: used. Every individual's perceptions are tainted by every previous
- >: perception, and making the individual aware of this is a great first step
- >: in enlightenment.
- >
- >Only for children is this a "great step". Every student of Zen, every monk
- >in a monastary, learns this as a necessary first step.
-
- I consider this a first step for the begining 'mage' or any normal person
- who has come to me for magical or mundane help. I have read almost as
- much applied psychology as applied magick (maybe more) and find some
- interesting similarites. This step is first in many magickal study methods,
- and in the most successful method of applied psychology I know about.
-
- Paul
-
- Live and Learn? How about Live TO Learn?
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- jds2 John D. Specht (Heads I win; Tails you lose.) Virtual reality is life!
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- If you want to save an endangered species, hug a romantic.
- Love is the triumph and pleasure and joy and light that makes life bearable.
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