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- From: spidy@acca.nmsu.edu (Da Spidy-Mon)
- Subject: Re: A bunch of prejudiced people.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.182715.6098@nmsu.edu>
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- References: <1992Jul23.093009.13594@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:27:15 GMT
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- stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) writes:
- :
- : What I said was (and what should become clear, if you read my flame carefully):
- : 1) That the biggest contingent of IRC Servers is from US
- : 2) That most of them are there for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)
- : 3) That most of the Ops in US are Ops for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)!
- : 4) That most of the admins of THOSE servers and THOSE Ops think that US is
- : the best ... rules the world and this stuff.
- : 5) That most of THEM should consult a psychiater!
-
- Well, if most IRCops in the US are for EGO reasons, then why or how did they
- acquire the links? Obviously, since they do have links..they are not
- just there for EGO reasons, if for thsat reason at all..But have you taken a
- look at the rest of the net as well? There are plenty of IRCpeonOPS out there
- that have attitude problems..and many are worse than the average IRCpeonOP
- here..that has an O-line for EGO reasons..
- :
- : 1), 2) and 3) I think are facts.
-
- They most certainly are not...what is your proof behind this? An observation
- or opinion on your part does not justify it as becoming a fact..It may be
- shared by other people as well..So basically what you are saying here is
- that when a person in the US obtains a server or an O-line, there
- attitude about EVERYONE else on the net suddenly changes and they consider
- themseves real badasses? If these IRCpeonOPS have OP status for just
- egotistical reasons..then if they were to suddenly LOOSE these O-lines/server
- I am sure that the number of friends many of them have will remain...as truly
- friends..Also, by saying that EVERY US ADMIN/IRCpeonOP has an problem with
- her/his ego, yoi have ALSO insulted all the IRCpeonUSERs as well..If I am
- not mistaken, an IRCpeonOP is a user when s/he signs onto IRC and through
- the use of a password s/he becomes an IRCpeonOP/ADMIN...So indirectly, YOU
- have insulted ALL the IRCpeonUSERS in the US...The nest time you make such
- a false and utterly asinine comment, try not to bust a loose your bladder
- control over this and go overboard...
-
- : 4) is my theory (which I get from the actions and /WALLOPS (from the time we
- : has them))
- : 5) I wrote this, 'cause I was really angry and it was mainly meant to one
- : person! (But I still think someone who thinks that his country rules the
- : world should consult a psychater - no matter what country he is from)
-
- So? this does not give you any justifiction to say that ALL IRCADMINS/
- IRCpeonOPS/IRCpeonUSERS are egotistical...I think that you are the one with
- the EGO problem..Indeed, When such an inflated EGO gets damaged or scratched
- in any way, the USUALLY decides to blame EVERYONE in the same category...Just
- to make him/herslef look better...Basic psychology will tell you this..
- :
- : I did NOT say:
- : 1) ALL americans are morons/insane
- : 2) my country is better than yours
-
- Well, you did NOT say this, but you certainly DID imply this..same deal
- either way around..(I am talking about 1)
- :
- : I too, don't think there are any problems with being proud of my country,
- : but that doesn't mean that I close my eyes to all the things that are
- : bad (and every country has things that are good and things that are bad)
- :
- Close your eyes to something bad? YOU are the one saying that ALL IRCADMINS/
- IRCpeonOPS in the US are egotistical bullies...I think that maybe you should
- look in the mirror someday...
- :
- : Some comments to explain my anger:
- : Mostly speaking for the situation in Germany (even it is/may be true for some
- : other countries, too)
- :
- : I can understand that those from US with a bunch of T1 links and no such
- : problems don't want rules and cry "IRC is an anarchy" and "IRC is for FUN",
- : but that doesn't mean that I have to like it.
- : There had been a lot of backbone plans for the US, but none of them ever
- : worked! Did you ever ask yourself why?
-
- Well, you probably already have surmised this..but the US is a very wasteful
- nation..Our trash alone could support a Third Wrold nation..We just gotta have
- the most amt of Power..Cars..money..blah blah..which is, to my opinion
- bad..and well, ya might as well add the most amt of T1 machines too..But
- you see, in the long run..if ya take all these luxuries away from us,
- we would not know how to survive....Just look at our frigging
- economy..and heh, we just gotta have the biggest National Defecit too..
- :
- : As I said, I didn't have any generalizations in mind.
- : And for the insane topic:
- :
- : Don't you think that someone, who is down to hell, 'cause that bitch of
- : a girl he knew from IRC and he was so in love with left him, who on the
- : other day writes "IRC is fun" and on the next day says "I have a new love
- : and it's serious this time", who himself says he's Op only for being Op
- : and because it's cool.
- : Don't you think that someone like him really has some problems, and isn't
- : too mature?
- : (or maybe he's simply too young. And in this case I don't think he should
- : have as much responsibility as I think an Op has (or at least should have).
- :
- Wait one second here...I am neither immature nor am I insane..Being immature
- is when you are not able to rationalize that there are DIFFERENCES in
- other people and other parts of the world..Being immature is thinking that
- you think that you ARE always right...I made a post to the general public
- for the sole reason of advice..People gave it to me..They told me that they
- felt for me..So, you have not only called me immature and Insane, but you
- have also called the people who took the time to give me advice Immature
- and Insane as well..Maybe you should wake up and realize that PEOPLE DO
- need help...and that IRC repaltionships are happening these days..
- Truly, this woman, I met was and still is more than just a "bitch." Ask anyone
- at ug.cs.dal.ca that knows her..But, am I at fault for trying to seek some
- female friendship over IRC? Am I to blame for having feelings and then feeling
- a bit used once I learned I had been HAD? I think you will find that the
- general consensus to ALL of these questions is no. Seems to me, that
- you are the onemakinf immature and irrational claims.. As for IRC being "fun" it is, I enjoy chatting to people on the Internet
- Relay Chat..Or does IRC have a hidden meaning?
-
- I do not recall saying anything of the nature that being an IRCop is cool
- to just "be and IRCop" Neither do I recall saying that " I am an OP
- just for being an OP." I asked to become an OP because, and you may
- think this is total rubbish, because I wanted to know how the system runs
- BEHIND the system..Close up..I will refer you to a certain paragraph Mr.
- Gwydion made on a flame to Avalon..I paraphrase.."I have find Spidy willing
- to learn..." If you have a problem with my willingness to learn, then I think
- that YOU are the one going insane.
- : That's it!
-
- You bet that is all..
- : Hope it helped to make some things clearer!
- : And I hope even more it helps IRCnet!
- yeah, so do I./..
- Have a nice day...
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