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- From: StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher)
- Subject: Re: Useless Bots
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- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:36:26 GMT
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- asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
- : StarWatcher@uiuc.edu was telling me...
- : >asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
-
- [re op-bots:]
- :I figure most of
- :the people who are on #bondage like the security of the channel. Other places
- :I think not. Still #bondage can be managed just fine w/o Monitor.
-
- Mebbie, but it wouldn't be the same channel if there wasn't some sort
- of channel-keeper. If invite/op bots were outlawed, there would probably
- be a few #bondage regulars who would incorporate monitor's features into
- their own .ircrc's, and just stay logged in to irc all the time. Then
- what? Would you start wanting them to be banned? If that happens, we
- ought to start banning all of the ops who stay logged in for 16-20 hours
- a day, but are more often away than there.
-
- :>Is the idea of only opping certain people elitist? Perhaps, depending
- :>on who the bot recognizes. I would have objections to a bot whose sole
- :
- :Haha, I love this. Depending on who the bot ops varys it's elitist state?
- :Sounds like 'If It doesn't op me, it's elitist.'
-
- Isn't this just the perfect example of taking someone's comments out of
- context? :-) Read on Fred....
-
- :>purpose in life is to /invite and op one particular person to a (or
- :>a few) channel(s). I don't see any problems with bots with invite/op
- :>lists of 50-60 people for one "regular" channel, especially if the bot
- :>is being updated fairly frequently, and if the human channel ops are
- :>willing to let new people on channel fairly regularly. The bots in between
- :>*shrug* I haven't had to deal with them.
- :
- :Your main argument for the robot is for invite purposes? Then why doesn't
- :it jsut do that instead of oping people? What's the point there?
-
- Then the channel would not be a reasonably "open" one. Is there a way
- to code a bot to "invite all people except those who have been jerks
- on this channel before, or who have harassed regular channel users
- in /msg's under various nicks"? That kind of bot would, IMHO, be too
- cumbersome to write and maintain to be practical. And what happens
- when the bot's home mainframe dies unexpectedly? You are left with
- a channel with no ops, necessitating the channel-hopping two-step to
- get an op, or an inability for the bot to get back on channel when its
- home machine comes back up.
-
- :>Of course, there is the obvious solution for people who have problems
- :>with the attitudes of the op-bot or of the powers-that-be for a given
- :>channel: Tough! If you don't like it, go form your own channel.
- :>Yes, it sounds like a harsh answer, but it should be an obvious one.
- :
- : There is also another obvious solution who have problems with
- : op bots (just a valid as yours) get rid of them all.
-
- But which suggestion can be implemented easier and more practicly? :-)
-
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